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Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:47 pm
by Puja
"The murals were painted over because he thought they were too welcoming and sent the wrong message."
The correct message presumably being, "We don't regard you as human beings and certainly have no pity for the fact that you are literally familyless children, alone and scared. We apologise for any suggestion we may have thought otherwise."
Puja
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:50 pm
by Sandydragon
One of the New Conservatives was being interviewed on a podcast the other day. Emails Maitlis asked how refugees were supposed to get to Britain legally at least three times. The nonentity couldn’t answer, just kept saying that the refugee should have sought asylum in the first safe country.
So basically we don’t care just don’t come here.
A better solution would be to cooperate with the EU on how many refugees each country can take and then transport them legally from the entry point in the EU to the destination. I do agree that the small boats issue is a disgrace and needs to stop, but you have to give asylum seekers a legal route to enter the country.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:25 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm
Do they think that Asylum seekers are risking their lives in order to (legally) enter a hostile country... to see a mural of Mickey Mouse?
Or are they just proud of their sociopathy?
Yep, just the Tories signaling their complete lack of empathy. Again.
Trying to make the lives of traumatised children even more miserable. That's . . . what is the word . . . oh yeah, evil.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:45 pm
by Sandydragon
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:25 am
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm
Do they think that Asylum seekers are risking their lives in order to (legally) enter a hostile country... to see a mural of Mickey Mouse?
Or are they just proud of their sociopathy?
Yep, just the Tories signaling their complete lack of empathy. Again.
Trying to make the lives of traumatised children even more miserable. That's . . . what is the word . . . oh yeah, evil.
The right of the party think their only chance is to get their base out, so expect far more of this shit.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:57 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:45 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:25 am
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:38 pm
Do they think that Asylum seekers are risking their lives in order to (legally) enter a hostile country... to see a mural of Mickey Mouse?
Or are they just proud of their sociopathy?
Yep, just the Tories signaling their complete lack of empathy. Again.
Trying to make the lives of traumatised children even more miserable. That's . . . what is the word . . . oh yeah, evil.
The right of the party think their only chance is to get their base out, so expect far more of this shit.
Hopefully it will disgust the centre (and anyone with a heart) and lose them votes overall.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:53 pm
by Sandydragon
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:57 pm
Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:45 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:25 am
Yep, just the Tories signaling their complete lack of empathy. Again.
Trying to make the lives of traumatised children even more miserable. That's . . . what is the word . . . oh yeah, evil.
The right of the party think their only chance is to get their base out, so expect far more of this shit.
Hopefully it will disgust the centre (and anyone with a heart) and lose them votes overall.
Many centralist Tories I know are either leaving the party or essentially abstaining. There’s a solid core who will vote Tory regardless, but many Tory voters have had enough of the antics and will either stay at home or vote tactically.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:06 pm
by Which Tyler
Can we please get some actual adults into government? Pretty please?
https://news.sky.com/story/gillian-keeg ... e-12920515
Headteachers "have a duty" to drive to the homes of absent pupils and bring them into school, the education secretary has said.
The average size of a secondary school in the UK is 986. Average attendance is 86%. So ball park of 140 collections a day?
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:44 pm
by Puja
If absence is so important to this government's priorities, perhaps they can explain why it was worthwhile them playing hardball over teachers' pay demands, given that it meant almost every child in England missed 6 days of school this year? Surely not being dicks about pay would've been more efficacious in increasing pupil presence than driving to parents' houses?
Puja
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:49 pm
by Sandydragon
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:06 pm
Can we please get some actual adults into government? Pretty please?
https://news.sky.com/story/gillian-keeg ... e-12920515
Headteachers "have a duty" to drive to the homes of absent pupils and bring them into school, the education secretary has said.
The average size of a secondary school in the UK is 986. Average attendance is 86%. So ball park of 140 collections a day?
Because of course a headteacher does nothing during the day. I’m also fairly sure most councils have some kind of truancy officer who would be better placed to do that role.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:17 am
by cashead
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:57 pm
by Which Tyler
So, how's the privatisation of essential monopolies going?
Other than not paying the required maintenance, and pumping sewerage into the rivers.
Now the drinking water isn't safe to drink
https://www.anglianwater.co.uk/hidden-p ... il-notice/
Oh, and note the URL there, it may be today's date, but it's also "hidden-pages/boil-notice"
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:45 pm
by morepork
Fark. You want to keep an eye on that. Do you know what the contaminant is? Bacteria from sewerage? Nitrates from farms?
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:31 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Anti-Tory primaries - an interesting idea to focus tactical voting:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... acy-change
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:55 pm
by Stom
They tried this in Hungary.
It didn't work, lol.
Probably because the government literally bribed voters.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:40 pm
by Puja
FPtP is a complete nonsense and it is amongst Starmer's worst bits of "leadership" that he is refusing to countenance even looking at changing it. For all his talk of the iniquities of Conservative rule, he's deliberately evading dealing with the system that elects them so often, because it would also weaken Labour's ability to gain unfettered power as well.
Puja
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:48 pm
by morepork
Everyone slides down the right-leaning slope that is the ever changing "centre". Where are our actual advocates in public service? Still prostrate at the altar of neoliberal voodoo economics, that's where.
How utterly depressing.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:41 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Stom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:55 pm
They tried this in Hungary.
It didn't work, lol.
Probably because the government literally bribed voters.
Yeah. I think it stands a better chance in the UK. No doubt there'd be a lot of misinformation about it in the media but it might help a bit.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:09 am
by Which Tyler
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... r-30578417
Matt Hancock loses complaint over Mirror description of him and articles on Covid contracts
The Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) ruled in favour of this newspaper after Matt Hancock objected to being called a "a failed health secretary and cheating husband who broke the lockdown rules he wrote"
...
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Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:47 am
by Puja
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:09 am
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... r-30578417
Matt Hancock loses complaint over Mirror description of him and articles on Covid contracts
The Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) ruled in favour of this newspaper after Matt Hancock objected to being called a "a failed health secretary and cheating husband who broke the lockdown rules he wrote"
...
ARTICLE CONTINUES
That feels like an absolute Streisand-effect error from Hancock.
IPSO are about as much use as wet toilet paper in an origami competition at the best of times, and have about the same level of strength and integrity, so I am amused that Hancock even bothered complaining to them, given that he must have known it would accomplish nothing.
Puja
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:47 am
by Son of Mathonwy
How to fight inflation in a way that doesn't crash the economy:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rest-rates
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:08 am
by Puja
A govenment in "actually doing something" shocker. I hadn't heard about Spain taking that tack, but it's quite nice to see the approach I've been bleating about being tried in the real world and succeeding.
Puja
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:02 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:08 am
A govenment in "actually doing something" shocker. I hadn't heard about Spain taking that tack, but it's quite nice to see the approach I've been bleating about being tried in the real world and succeeding.
Puja
Yeah. Unfortunately it isn't going to happen under the Tories. It's not only ideologically impossible, it would be biting the hand that funds.
Whether Starmer's Labour would do it, who knows? They certainly don't want to look like they'll be economically unconventional before the election. Afterwards . . .? Although plenty more damage will have been done by then - more shrinking of the economy in real terms, more of the pain taken by the poor, more businesses going to the wall (not sure where that fits in with Tory goals but hey they've not been rational for a while).
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
by Sandydragon
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:08 am
A govenment in "actually doing something" shocker. I hadn't heard about Spain taking that tack, but it's quite nice to see the approach I've been bleating about being tried in the real world and succeeding.
Puja
Our government has devolved the fight against inflation to he BoE. Much easier to fire shots at the bank’s governors.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:20 am
by Banquo
Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:08 am
A govenment in "actually doing something" shocker. I hadn't heard about Spain taking that tack, but it's quite nice to see the approach I've been bleating about being tried in the real world and succeeding.
Puja
Our government has devolved the fight against inflation to he BoE. Much easier to fire shots at the bank’s governors.
That was done about 25 years ago to be fair, Though I don't feel like being fair mostly.
Re: Snap General Election called
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 1:22 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:20 am
Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:47 pm
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:08 am
A govenment in "actually doing something" shocker. I hadn't heard about Spain taking that tack, but it's quite nice to see the approach I've been bleating about being tried in the real world and succeeding.
Puja
Our government has devolved the fight against inflation to he BoE. Much easier to fire shots at the bank’s governors.
That was done about 25 years ago to be fair, Though I don't feel like being fair mostly.
Disagree - 25 years ago the interest rates were devolved to the BoE. The government still has plenty of tools to fight inflation in their own hands; they're just pretending they don't and insisting it's up to the BoE to do something.
Puja