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Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:22 am
by Lizard
To call his unvocabularied bloviation "rhetoric" does a disservice to the ancient Greeks.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:28 am
by morepork
Jesus titty fucking christ.

Now is the time to but=y up stocks, desk-based people.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:37 am
by Len
Imagine Trump meeting Putin :lol:

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:43 am
by jared_7
Surely the death of political polling? I followed a lot of FiveThirtyEight over the election, and its self proclaimed unbeatable polling systems running 20,000 mock elections daily through some super database.

Still completely wrong. May as well toss a coin.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:46 am
by Spy
jared_7 wrote:Surely the death of political polling? I followed a lot of FiveThirtyEight over the election, and its self proclaimed unbeatable polling systems running 20,000 mock elections daily through some super database.

Still completely wrong. May as well toss a coin.
Eggs on a lot of faces, Nate Silver in particular.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:47 am
by Which Tyler
cashead wrote:It's not just that they went with the guy that shouted loudest, they decided they liked racist rhetoric.
Sounds familiar - if exaggerated from June.


WTF America - this is not the news I expected to wake up to.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:56 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
Seems a lot of Americans don't like having healthcare.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:03 am
by morepork
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Seems a lot of Americans don't like having healthcare.

Or an education. Bernie where art thou? Young people have stayed away in droves.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:07 am
by cashead
On the plus side, we got this tweet from Dolph Lundgren.


Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:15 am
by Lizard
Still, you've got to give 'Muricans credit. They voted in GW Bush to test the proposition that you couldn't be too stupid to be President. Although the theory remained intact, they've ramped up the experiment and are having another go.

More beer.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:16 am
by Donny osmond
Stop the world I want to get off...

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:29 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
morepork wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Seems a lot of Americans don't like having healthcare.

Or an education. Bernie where art thou? Young people have stayed away in droves.
I haven't been following this word for word - too depressing - but is that right because last I heard turnout was up. If it is right, then they've got no one but themselves to blame when they see the consequences.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:47 am
by Adder
Grabbing the election by the p"ssy.

Image


....taxi

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Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:26 am
by Adder
He just needs 4 delegates to win

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:36 am
by Adder
PRESIDENT TRUMP... it's official

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:45 am
by Coco
Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:48 am
by cashead
Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.
Ah, so you're going with the timetested "throw the baby out with the bathwater and then burn the house down with lava" approach.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:55 am
by jared_7
Well there it is.

Trump offered the completely wrong solutions to very real problem, Sanders offered solutions to a very real problem. Clinton and the political establishment behind her basically had their fingers in their ears screaming "la la la we can't hear you up here, there is no problem, accept your lot".

A sad result, but eerily similar to the Brexit in terms of the problems and outcome.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:04 am
by WaspInWales
Love it.

Just hope he paces himself as there's only so much I can take. If his victory speech is anything to go by, this is going to be great fun.

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Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:06 am
by WaspInWales
YEW-ES-AY

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Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:19 am
by rowan
Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week! :shock: :D

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:24 am
by Spy
Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.
Trump will have a friendly Senate and House to work with. He should be able to build what he wants without the compromises that Obama had to work with. It'll be interesting to see how he handles health care, amongst other things. He's going to be able to make stuff happen.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:31 am
by jared_7
Spy wrote:
Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.
Trump will have a friendly Senate and House to work with. He should be able to build what he wants without the compromises that Obama had to work with. It'll be interesting to see how he handles health care, amongst other things. He's going to be able to make stuff happen.
He'll tear up Obamacare and go back to a whole private system with millions left uninsured. Tragic, but the only logical conclusion the way Obamacare was set up.

Whats more interesting to me is what Trump does to trade deals, I think he said something like whacking 35% tariffs on imports, as well as ripping up a bunch of free trade agreements. The US is about the only country in the world who has the clout to do these things, and once they pave the way t makes it easier for others to follow.

Whats most important is how the rest of America reacts. Change is needed, Trump isn't going to offer the right kind but you can see, hopefully, this election being a catalyst for social and political reform via grass roots movements, something revolutionary.

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:35 am
by Lizard
rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week! :shock: :D
Back yer truck up mate.

What happened to your theory that he was actor in a preordained fix?

Re: Election Tracker/Predictions

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:40 am
by Digby
Spy wrote:
Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.
Trump will have a friendly Senate and House to work with. He should be able to build what he wants without the compromises that Obama had to work with. It'll be interesting to see how he handles health care, amongst other things. He's going to be able to make stuff happen.
On the face of it yes. But whilst Trump is likely to be more popular to them than Obama it's not as though all Republicans can stand the man, so we might see a split between those who can't abide him and those who'll tolerate Trump as best they can.