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Don't think Cane intentionally tried to hurt henshaw as henshaw spun around. But obviously its a shoulder to the head first.

Fekitoa deliberately went high it was reckless but no damage done, leave it at yellow

Ireland played one out rugby, with a tactic of giving it to our number 7 about 25 times, junior rugby tactics better team won

cashead wrote:

Lizard wrote:It seems that some of your countrymen are a little more one-eyed about this test than the fine Irish members of this boards:

http://news.rugbypass.com/view/irish-fa ... lacks-game

Honestly, you get one win over us and some of you think you're now entitled to carry on like Welshmen. It's a poor look, Ireland, poor look.

Yep. As SomethingAwful forums Rabbi T White put it:





Neither of those were even given penalties. Please continue on about the unfair reffing.

Neither of those look like a high tackle, in the top one Kearney is holding the back of Savea's shoulders not his neck so not a neck roll or high tackle, the bottom one looks as Sexton has his arm over the shoulder of the all blacks player who is about 3 feet from the ground.

Watching the match as a neutral I thought the All blacks were very lucky to get away with a great deal of their "tackles".

cashead wrote:Could've been a penalty try, and it's actually preposterous that he wasn't carded, let alone cited for it.

As someone said above - "please continue about the unfair reffing"

Well, whether it was Cane's shoulder, head or arse makes no difference; Henshaw is out for the Aussie test. So, too, Sexton.

I blame Fekitoa's tackle on Zebo for Sexton's hamstring.

Numbers wrote:

cashead wrote:

Lizard wrote:It seems that some of your countrymen are a little more one-eyed about this test than the fine Irish members of this boards:

http://news.rugbypass.com/view/irish-fa ... lacks-game

Honestly, you get one win over us and some of you think you're now entitled to carry on like Welshmen. It's a poor look, Ireland, poor look.

Yep. As SomethingAwful forums Rabbi T White put it:





Neither of those were even given penalties. Please continue on about the unfair reffing.

Neither of those look like a high tackle, in the top one Kearney is holding the back of Savea's shoulders not his neck so not a neck roll or high tackle, the bottom one looks as Sexton has his arm over the shoulder of the all blacks player who is about 3 feet from the ground.

Watching the match as a neutral I thought the All blacks were very lucky to get away with a great deal of their "tackles".

Reminder that Fekitoa got carded and cited for this:




The first point of contact between Barrett and Sexton is the neck, and by your logic of "the all blacks player is... 3 feet from the ground" is applied universally, than Cane shouldn't be cited either. Which he shouldn't. And you could even potentially make an argument for an attempted neckroll with Sexton's effort.



As for the Kearney on Savea one, once again, because the first point of contact is above the shoulders and around the neck area, then it deserves scrutiny.

Nah, sorry Cashead, yer talking bollocks. Hint: Fekitoa's arm is covering half of Zebo's ear; Kearney and Sexton are barely covering the collar.

Ye'll just have to accept that ye can't argue a case for the defence in here. And if ye keep at it long enough, we'll find a way to blame ye for the Famine.

Dangerous tackling.

A player must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. A tackle around the opponent’s neck or head is dangerous play.

http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=10.4

Tell me where Kearney and Sexton's hands are.

is anyone saying sexton's tackle wasn't high? of course it is.

the kearney one i'd need to see on video. stills without video are useless. we've all seen the sexton, cane and fekitoa ones multiple times. what time was the kearney one?

hellovating wrote:is anyone saying sexton's tackle wasn't high? of course it is.

It's on the same page, dude.

Numbers wrote:Neither of those look like a high tackle... the bottom one looks as Sexton has his arm over the shoulder of the all blacks player who is about 3 feet from the ground.

Sexton put a Vulcan death grip on BB. Green blood.

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:is anyone saying sexton's tackle wasn't high? of course it is.

It's on the same page, dude.

Numbers wrote:Neither of those look like a high tackle... the bottom one looks as Sexton has his arm over the shoulder of the all blacks player who is about 3 feet from the ground.

cheers, we shouldn't be judging high tackles with still photos.

hellovating wrote:

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:is anyone saying sexton's tackle wasn't high? of course it is.

It's on the same page, dude.

Numbers wrote:Neither of those look like a high tackle... the bottom one looks as Sexton has his arm over the shoulder of the all blacks player who is about 3 feet from the ground.

cheers, we shouldn't be judging high tackles with still photos.

OK.

I agree entirely with hellov's analysis of the 3 incidents - can't remember if it was this thread or the other one.

I struggle with the idea that this was all just unfortunate. I don't think I've ever seen so many high tackles in a game and certainly not from the ABs. I struggle with the idea that they collectively forgot how to tackle for a match. However I also struggle with the idea that they were sent out to injure anyone. The best I can come up with was that they were sent out with a rocket under them which made them over aggressive. On the whole I'm a bit disappointed with the ABs in that game. I'd expected that we'd be shredded with the usual clever rugby but but for the odd flash there really wasn't much of that.

See that Cashead bloke, he caused the Blight, so he did!

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:

cashead wrote:
It's on the same page, dude.

cheers, we shouldn't be judging high tackles with still photos.

OK.

yep, looks clear to me. i have said a number of times i thought it should have been a yellow for sexton.

how about the kearney one?

hellovating wrote:

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote: cheers, we shouldn't be judging high tackles with still photos.

OK.

yep, looks clear to me. i have said a number of times i thought it should have been a yellow for sexton.

how about the kearney one?

About 30-odd minutes into the game. Savea has the ball and bounces off Ireland's 14. Kearney then attempts to grab Savea around the neck area before being bounced off. While the attempt was poor, the intent is clear.

Fekitoa gets a week. No word on Cane.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all- ... igh-tackle

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:

cashead wrote:
OK.

yep, looks clear to me. i have said a number of times i thought it should have been a yellow for sexton.

how about the kearney one?

About 30-odd minutes into the game. Savea has the ball and bounces off Ireland's 14. Kearney then attempts to grab Savea around the neck area before being bounced off. While the attempt was poor, the intent is clear.

Scraping the feckin barrel with that call Cas!

Cane found not guilty.

bruce wrote:

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:

yep, looks clear to me. i have said a number of times i thought it should have been a yellow for sexton.

how about the kearney one?

About 30-odd minutes into the game. Savea has the ball and bounces off Ireland's 14. Kearney then attempts to grab Savea around the neck area before being bounced off. While the attempt was poor, the intent is clear.

Scraping the feckin barrel with that call Cas!

Kearney's intention was quite clear in attempting to use Savea's momentum to bring him down to ground - i.e., it is an attempt at what World Rugby defines as a "tackle." He's then grabbed at Savea's neck, which is explicitly outlawed in 10.4 as dangerous play.

I still haven't watched the whole match yet although I did catch some action from both halves as it happened. That said, I haven't seen the Cane or Fekitoa incidents till tonight. Definite yellow and citing for the Fekitoa 'tackle', although the ban is a joke! As for the Cane incident, it's not that bad tbh. Henshaw spun into the tackle and there really isn't too much Cane can do about it. Penalty yes but hard pressed to think of further sanction.

As for the Sexton incident, by the letter of the law, it's a penalty, penalty try too as it certainly wasn't grounded!

cashead wrote:

hellovating wrote:

cashead wrote:
OK.

yep, looks clear to me. i have said a number of times i thought it should have been a yellow for sexton.

how about the kearney one?

About 30-odd minutes into the game. Savea has the ball and bounces off Ireland's 14. Kearney then attempts to grab Savea around the neck area before being bounced off. While the attempt was poor, the intent is clear.

Bloody hell.....That's not a high tackle. It's a crap tackle.

Penalty to NZ for Kearney tackling Savea whilst on the ground.

When I watched the game, I saw a few rucks where bodies were flying in off their feet. It highlighted just how much of a physically contest the match was but I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it. SA get a lot of criticism when they do it.

You will be pleased to learn that Alain Rolland has admitted that Peyper got something wrong: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all- ... -was-wrong