Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:07 am
by Adder
laribold wrote:Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
Yes we were really poor back then. And that was a French team with a new Coach (Lievremont), no game plan and lots of new Internationals.
It's when you watch these videos that you notice the good shift the SRU has put in. Of course we will always complain about details, but there seems to be a plan.
I am very(too much) confident about Sunday's game but Scotland's "killer instinct" is yet to be a reality. Glasgow have it, but it has yet to transpire to the National team. Really don't want us to feck up this weekend. I want to be able to see my friends in Paris in a couple of weeks and be able to shove it in their faces for more than a decade of painful humiliation .
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:20 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Jon Welsh starts at TH for Newcastle. Big mistake Vern.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:22 pm
by AL.
laribold wrote:Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
For gods sake, quick watch this....before you are permanently damaged.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:41 pm
by Mikey Brown
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Jon Welsh starts at TH for Newcastle. Big mistake Vern.
Yeah, why have a guy on the bench who you can't even trust to fill in for a 20 year old rookie.
Not to knock Fagerson or anything. Just don't want him getting battered and retiring at 23.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:46 pm
by Adder
AL. wrote:
laribold wrote:Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
For gods sake, quick watch this....before you are permanently damaged.
I would love for this to happen... but Scotland has not won two major games in a row for some time.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:48 pm
by switchskier
Minutes 16-22 are worth 6 minutes of anyone's time. Thanks.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:24 pm
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Jon Welsh starts at TH for Newcastle. Big mistake Vern.
Possibly, but the prop situation is something VC has handled fairly well barring Low being picked for the AIs.
At times he has been down to 3rd/4th/5th choice looseheads in the squad, he identified that Sutherland has potential and he has looked decent for Scotland. He has moved Dell and Allan at times ahead of Reid against reasonable scrimmaging teams (even if not massive scrimmaging sides) and it has worked.
At tighthead, a position we have lacked quality depth in for a long time (and still do) he has handled Fagersons international development well. Gave him his debut last 6N, realised he wasn't quite ready and gave him more time in the 20s at international level. He could potentially have taken him off last week but he was playing bloody well.
Welsh might be better 3rd choice than Berghan, time will tell but even if Berghan struggles if he gets on that is not to saw Welsh would not struggle.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:39 pm
by laribold
AL. wrote:
laribold wrote:Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
For gods sake, quick watch this....before you are permanently damaged.
It's no good. I didn't get past the first 2 seconds with this
Inverdale...
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:05 pm
by AL.
laribold wrote:
AL. wrote:
laribold wrote:Jesus wept....
Thanks for that Adder. I had to stop watching it after 2 minutes.
Well at least if nothing else we can say we look a completely different team to then.
The basic skills if nothing else are now leagues ahead.
Remember the days when we'd routinely just drop the ball from a simple pass? Only 6 scrums in the entire Ireland match tell a different story there.
For gods sake, quick watch this....before you are permanently damaged.
It's no good. I didn't get past the first 2 seconds with this
Inverdale...
Turn the sound off and appreciate Metcalfe gliding.
While I am at it, nugget:
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:26 pm
by Adder
AL. wrote:
laribold wrote:
AL. wrote:
For gods sake, quick watch this....before you are permanently damaged.
It's no good. I didn't get past the first 2 seconds with this
Inverdale...
Turn the sound off and appreciate Metcalfe gliding.
While I am at it, nugget:
I am getting way too confident... Please stop...
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:26 pm
by hp18
Mikey Brown wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Jon Welsh starts at TH for Newcastle. Big mistake Vern.
Yeah, why have a guy on the bench who you can't even trust to fill in for a 20 year old rookie.
Not to knock Fagerson or anything. Just don't want him getting battered and retiring at 23.
Then rest him for a game. In the meantime if he's got the engine for 80 and is doing well, why replace him?
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:34 pm
by Big D
hp18 wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Jon Welsh starts at TH for Newcastle. Big mistake Vern.
Yeah, why have a guy on the bench who you can't even trust to fill in for a 20 year old rookie.
Not to knock Fagerson or anything. Just don't want him getting battered and retiring at 23.
Then rest him for a game. In the meantime if he's got the engine for 80 and is doing well, why replace him?
MB, 21 year old . Playing devils advocate how is having a "guy on the bench who you can't even trust to fill in for a 20 year old rookie" worse than someone you don't even trust to bench ahead of that guy? I think everyone has doubts but the coaches will have seen them close up for over 2 weeks now.
Like HP says ZJRF has the engine for it and was playing very well in the loose. There was no need to bring Berghan on. It is a pet peeve of mine that subs are made for no reason, or even worse at premeditated points in the game.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:48 pm
by Mikey Brown
Alright alright. I do agree with the last paragraph.
No matter how well he played I can't believe that it didn't take a toll getting through that insane amount of work in the loose and scrummaging against that 4 tonne French pack. I just don't want a Corbisiero situation here.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:49 pm
by hp18
Mikey Brown wrote:Alright alright. I do agree with the last paragraph.
No matter how well he played I can't believe that it didn't take a toll getting through that insane amount of work in the loose and scrummaging against that 4 tonne French pack. I just don't want a Corbisiero situation here.
Good thing he didn't play against a French pack then.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:52 pm
by Mikey Brown
Yeah, I may have got my tenses a bit wrong there.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:12 am
by Adder
French team, only real change is Chouly is now on the bench instead of Goujon. French are probably not going to try and constest lineouts much.
A few small changes in Subs (hooker and Second Row). Both Chouly and LeDevedec are good lineouts players. They will come on later in the game
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:47 am
by Big D
Some big fuckers in that team.
What are yon Fijian fellas like under the high ball? Worth getting Seymour contesting with Nakaitaci?
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:57 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:Some big fuckers in that team.
What are yon Fijian fellas like under the high ball? Worth getting Seymour contesting with Nakaitaci?
Wakatawa is a 7s players and his positioning can be a bit off. I think Nakaitaci is faily good under high ball. You also have Spedding who is good in the Air.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:16 am
by Adder
The French Backrow is pretty powerfull. All three have played a lot of their Career at 8 the ball wrecking kind).
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:08 am
by General Zod
Someone on this board a while ago pointed out Alan Tait's face after he scored his try and Logan missed a simple conversion (go to 31 minutes on the youtube clock). Absolutely hilarious reasction.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:20 am
by Cameo
Haha, it really was bizarre that Logan was an international kicker. Probs would have won the grandslam with anyone else kicking
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:28 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:The French Backrow is pretty powerfull. All three have played a lot of their Career at 8 the ball wrecking kind).
Our wee Hamish will get them.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:40 am
by Stones of granite
Looking back on that game reminded what a great partnership Toony and John Leslie had. Toony never appeared to be the same player without Leslie, who seemed to always know what he was going to do.
Re: Team for France
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:40 am
by Adder
Alright, the only change is that Wilson is out (elbow infection) and hardy comes on to the bench with Barclay taking Wilson's place.