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Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:10 pm
by Buggaluggs
Wait Wales scoring soft tries??! What's going on?

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:11 pm
by Buggaluggs
bruce wrote:South Africa's backs are crap.

]South Africa's backs are crap.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:16 pm
by bruce
Yank Aled Davies off the field.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:21 pm
by Mikey Brown
That Faletau pass was ridiculous.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:40 pm
by Buggaluggs
Crap as SA are, we seem determined to keep them in the game.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:49 pm
by morepork
It's all strangely slow motion.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:53 pm
by Buggaluggs
morepork wrote:It's all strangely slow motion.
That's the new Wales fast game.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:56 pm
by WaspInWales
Buggaluggs wrote:½P makes bad decisions with ball in hand
Aye, what has happened to him?

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:58 pm
by morepork
WaspInWales wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:½P makes bad decisions with ball in hand
Aye, what has happened to him?

He's a total robot.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:11 pm
by Buggaluggs
This is heading towards a 25-24 RSA win, isn't it?

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:17 pm
by Buggaluggs
Holy cow. What a labored constipated turd that win was.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:27 pm
by Ross. S
Buggaluggs wrote:Holy cow. What a labored constipated turd that win was.
Any of the othe home nations and that would have been a 40+ point win. I thought we were heading for a good win to start off with but then thet shit happened

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:29 pm
by Buggaluggs
I'm not looking forward to playing Scotland and Ireland in the 6Ns.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:31 pm
by Buggaluggs
Ross. S wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:Holy cow. What a labored constipated turd that win was.
Any of the othe home nations and that would have been a 40+ point win. I thought we were heading for a good win to start off with but then thet shit happened

This. We just don't have the killer instinct. Ireland would have 50 on them. Oh wait, they did.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:37 pm
by Sourdust
Given our situation, I'd have taken a 2pt win this morning and said thanks very much.

But 21-3 up and we still couldn't kill off a SA team that couldn't find its own arse with both hands. Our passivity in that third quarter was criminal, and so in the end we went from a euphoric romp, to narrowly avoiding what might have been our most crushing defeat ever. Fair play for some guts and smart game management in the last ten, though, when I thought it was perfectly set up for a standard Welsh implosion that never came. Take a bow, Wyn Jones! :-)

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:40 pm
by Sourdust
Buggaluggs wrote:Holy cow. What a labored constipated turd that win was.
Yep. We're caning them 21-3, and you're thinking "I wonder how we fuck THIS one up?" - it drives me effin' barmy.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:07 pm
by Buggaluggs
Sourdust wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:Holy cow. What a labored constipated turd that win was.
Yep. We're caning them 21-3, and you're thinking "I wonder how we fuck THIS one up?" - it drives me effin' barmy.

Need to see it again, but I thought it was penalty wales, and bigger hoofs it down field (an odd advantage played) and SA run it in for 21-10. Had we taken the penalty and played dink & dunk for 3 mins after the lineout we go in 21-3 at the half. As it was we were sloppy either side of halftime and handed momentum to an SA side that really didn't look like they even wanted it.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:14 pm
by Sandydragon
Buggaluggs wrote:½P makes bad decisions with ball in hand
He is way off form. Back 3 of Liam Williams, North and Amos for me when all are fit.

Good debut for Parkes.

Our scrum half order of precedence remains unchanged.

Forwards. Fucking hell that second half was one sided. Thankfully not too many scrums in he danger zone but we leaked enough penalties from the scrum and breakdown to have gifted the game to most teams. Thankfully that was nowhere near our first choice set of forwards.

We won though. Could be worse, for a while I though we were going to piss away a tidy lead.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:00 pm
by Buggaluggs
Sandydragon wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:½P makes bad decisions with ball in hand
He is way off form. Back 3 of Liam Williams, North and Amos for me when all are fit.

Good debut for Parkes.

Our scrum half order of precedence remains unchanged.

Forwards. Fucking hell that second half was one sided. Thankfully not too many scrums in he danger zone but we leaked enough penalties from the scrum and breakdown to have gifted the game to most teams. Thankfully that was nowhere near our first choice set of forwards.

We won though. Could be worse, for a while I though we were going to piss away a tidy lead.
That would have been an awful loss.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:01 pm
by Mikey Brown
I like Amos. Powerful for a 14 year old too.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:14 pm
by Buggaluggs
Mikey Brown wrote:I like Amos. Powerful for a 14 year old too.
I wasn't sold, but he's had a very good autumn. He seems to be able to time his runs very well

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:01 pm
by Sandydragon
Buggaluggs wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:I like Amos. Powerful for a 14 year old too.
I wasn't sold, but he's had a very good autumn. He seems to be able to time his runs very well
He isn’t th quickest on the wing, it the Stef Evans didn’t show that much on the interception either. As it stands, Amos has the habit of finishing moves off nicely and can offload nicely. I thinkStef Evans is a quality player in the making, but Amos is offering more st the moment in attack whilst being sounder in defence. Mix in the running threat of Williams and the power of North and I think that’s a decent back 3 combination.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:02 pm
by Sourdust
I said at the start that 2/4 would be a decent return for us given where we were, so I have to stick to that. Wales get a pass mark from me for the Autumn; loads to improve but some small cause for hope. I was hoping we'd unearth a few realistic new options and we seem to have done that.

The real surprises for me have been Navidi and Amos, two players I'll admit I didn't trust before but both look decent now - perhaps not 1st choice, but palatable backup options. Steff Evans and (Controversial Opinion Warning) Owen Williams had a slightly disappointing series, but did nowhere near enough wrong to give up on them yet. The jury is still out on Cory Hill but he's not useless. But yes, in the front five we are in deep, deep shit. I'd have liked to have seen more of Dee, though.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:04 pm
by Mellsblue
Sandydragon wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:I like Amos. Powerful for a 14 year old too.
I wasn't sold, but he's had a very good autumn. He seems to be able to time his runs very well
He isn’t th quickest on the wing, it the Stef Evans didn’t show that much on the interception either. As it stands, Amos has the habit of finishing moves off nicely and can offload nicely. I thinkStef Evans is a quality player in the making, but Amos is offering more st the moment in attack whilst being sounder in defence. Mix in the running threat of Williams and the power of North and I think that’s a decent back 3 combination.
I haven’t seen much of him but he strikes me as your version of Nowell without him being as busy. Which is to say, I don’t think he’ll be anything but ok at test level. Better than Cuthbert, though.

Re: Wales v SA

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:21 pm
by Sourdust
Mellsblue wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Buggaluggs wrote:
I wasn't sold, but he's had a very good autumn. He seems to be able to time his runs very well
He isn’t th quickest on the wing, it the Stef Evans didn’t show that much on the interception either. As it stands, Amos has the habit of finishing moves off nicely and can offload nicely. I thinkStef Evans is a quality player in the making, but Amos is offering more st the moment in attack whilst being sounder in defence. Mix in the running threat of Williams and the power of North and I think that’s a decent back 3 combination.
I haven’t seen much of him but he strikes me as your version of Nowell without him being as busy. Which is to say, I don’t think he’ll be anything but ok at test level. Better than Cuthbert, though.
I'll settle for okay, in a back three with Sanjay and one of North/Steff/½p. I wasn't expecting to say that about Amos, so I nod respectfully in his direction.