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Re: Sale vs Wasps
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:02 pm
by Raggs
Tigersman wrote:There was no need to straighten I don't see how your body needs to straighten the leg to balance it.
Otherwise why isn't it a more common thing to happen in a game?
it also means you are landing on one foot which is also against your body instincts.
Not sure why Odogwu's incident should be deemed less than Lavanini high tackle.
He's already landing on one foot, his knee is completely raised. His body is leaning back, so as he's in the air, the only way he can bring his body upright, is to have something else to work against, which is his bent leg.
Regardless, the panel decided he wasn't doing it for balance purposes, but to ward off a tackler. So illegally defending yourself in a vulnerable position, and connecting to the head, and then being emotional about getting carded, is worse than absolutely smashing in a high tackle (and having a disciplinary record as long as your arm), or shoulder barging in the head after the whistle has gone, and about equal with straight up elbowing someone in the face with no other purpose than to hit and hurt them.
Re: Sale vs Wasps
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:40 pm
by chris1850
I am not convinced his action was necessarily deliberate but it was certainly reckless. In the same way that an approaching tackler has a 'duty of care' to the player in the air, it is also reasonable to expect the same duty of care from the player in the air. Imagine if he had made contact with eye?
He clearly didn't help his case with his stupid antics afterwards and failing to apologise to van Cannonball at the time.
The fact that some are arguing that 6 weeks is excessive and others that it is not enough probably means it is about right.
Re: Sale vs Wasps
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:59 pm
by Puja
chris1850 wrote:The fact that some are arguing that 6 weeks is excessive and others that it is not enough probably means it is about right.
Puja
Re: Sale vs Wasps
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:37 pm
by Tigersman
Raggs wrote:Tigersman wrote:There was no need to straighten I don't see how your body needs to straighten the leg to balance it.
Otherwise why isn't it a more common thing to happen in a game?
it also means you are landing on one foot which is also against your body instincts.
Not sure why Odogwu's incident should be deemed less than Lavanini high tackle.
He's already landing on one foot, his knee is completely raised. His body is leaning back, so as he's in the air, the only way he can bring his body upright, is to have something else to work against, which is his bent leg.
Regardless, the panel decided he wasn't doing it for balance purposes, but to ward off a tackler. So illegally defending yourself in a vulnerable position, and connecting to the head, and then being emotional about getting carded, is worse than absolutely smashing in a high tackle (and having a disciplinary record as long as your arm), or shoulder barging in the head after the whistle has gone, and about equal with straight up elbowing someone in the face with no other purpose than to hit and hurt them.
Lavanini to be fair to him hadn't been carded for reckless and dangerous play in over 3 years till that Farrell incident, he has gotten a red card between that but that was for 2 cynical YC's rather than dangerous play.
I would say kicking someone in the head with a studded boot which it was once they decided it wasn't for balance should be in that bracket.
and 6 weeks is about right and relative.