Re: Ones to watch from your club this season
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:34 pm
Surprised Smith's gone out on loan. I'd've thought he was ready for Prem rugby based on what we saw of him last year.
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Lol. Was going to post that he heard he was being loaned to a club in Bedfordshire and just assumed his prayers had been answered.Mr Mwenda wrote:Insert comment about him wishing to play at Goldington Road
As a Quins fan that was a terrifying new page post.Puja wrote:Surprised Smith's gone out on loan. I'd've thought he was ready for Prem rugby based on what we saw of him last year.
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Danno wrote:As a Quins fan that was a terrifying new page post.Puja wrote:Surprised Smith's gone out on loan. I'd've thought he was ready for Prem rugby based on what we saw of him last year.
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Maybe that's why they've shipped him off to Ampthill? Get him out of the shop window while they lock down a new contract?Tigersman wrote:I THINK Finn Smith is out of contract end of season which might make it even more juicier.
Yes coming off the bench for Ampthill is one way to remain off the radar. I don't think anyone can approach him until end of January officially. He could have told them that he sees his future elsewhere and so they've sent him off to the Championship just to get him out of the squad.Puja wrote:Maybe that's why they've shipped him off to Ampthill? Get him out of the shop window while they lock down a new contract?Tigersman wrote:I THINK Finn Smith is out of contract end of season which might make it even more juicier.
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I’m sure I read in the rugby paper recently that clubs are now allowed to officially approach players any time in their last 12 months of contract. Not sure if that correct or not?FKAS wrote:Yes coming off the bench for Ampthill is one way to remain off the radar. I don't think anyone can approach him until end of January officially. He could have told them that he sees his future elsewhere and so they've sent him off to the Championship just to get him out of the squad.Puja wrote:Maybe that's why they've shipped him off to Ampthill? Get him out of the shop window while they lock down a new contract?Tigersman wrote:I THINK Finn Smith is out of contract end of season which might make it even more juicier.
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Could well be. I'm not up to scratch on such things but I'm sure I've heard previously that there's different timescales depending on the player's age. If they are under 21 I think it used to be January though that may have changed.Timbo wrote:I’m sure I read in the rugby paper recently that clubs are now allowed to officially approach players any time in their last 12 months of contract. Not sure if that correct or not?FKAS wrote:Yes coming off the bench for Ampthill is one way to remain off the radar. I don't think anyone can approach him until end of January officially. He could have told them that he sees his future elsewhere and so they've sent him off to the Championship just to get him out of the squad.Puja wrote:
Maybe that's why they've shipped him off to Ampthill? Get him out of the shop window while they lock down a new contract?
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Irish would be the obvious choice though as you say not the best option. Falcons have a couple of good youngsters one of whom came off the bench last weekend though they are pretty desperate given Connon is now their only senior option, Hodgson being always injured. Again not the best option though both those clubs would be offering game time and probably more salary due to their need.Puja wrote:Who could use a young fly-half? Wasps, Quins, Exeter, Bath, Glaws, Briz, Northampton, and Saracens all have young tyros of their own. Sale have Wilkinson, although he's a bit older than the average tyro without having broken through. Leicester have Lancaster, although he could just as easily be developed as a centre. Do Newcastle have anyone? Irish? You wouldn't've said they were a significant step up from Wuss.
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Falcons have Louie Johnson who has just come up out of the Academy.Puja wrote:Who could use a young fly-half? Wasps, Quins, Exeter, Bath, Glaws, Briz, Northampton, and Saracens all have young tyros of their own. Sale have Wilkinson, although he's a bit older than the average tyro without having broken through. Leicester have Lancaster, although he could just as easily be developed as a centre. Do Newcastle have anyone? Irish? You wouldn't've said they were a significant step up from Wuss.
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Yep. Good summary.FKAS wrote:Irish would be the obvious choice though as you say not the best option. Falcons have a couple of good youngsters one of whom came off the bench last weekend though they are pretty desperate given Connon is now their only senior option, Hodgson being always injured. Again not the best option though both those clubs would be offering game time and probably more salary due to their need.Puja wrote:Who could use a young fly-half? Wasps, Quins, Exeter, Bath, Glaws, Briz, Northampton, and Saracens all have young tyros of their own. Sale have Wilkinson, although he's a bit older than the average tyro without having broken through. Leicester have Lancaster, although he could just as easily be developed as a centre. Do Newcastle have anyone? Irish? You wouldn't've said they were a significant step up from Wuss.
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Chiefs have Skinner but he's already 23 and doesn't look more than a squad player. Signing someone who could be genuine competition for Simmonds might be a good option. They do have that Wales under 20s flyhalf as well as the dual qualified guy from Australia but their lack of game time so far is its own indicator.
Tigers if the rumours around Ford possibly taking the cash abroad are true could make a move. Burns mentoring Lancaster and Smith would potentially be a good long term plan with Lancaster equally able to play 12.
Bristol are going to lose Sheedy possibly next summer unless there's some extension clauses in his contract due to the Welsh selection rules. Finn Smith in with Lloyd would maybe be to inexperienced for them but they can't keep putting their eggs in a basket for the Welsh to take home.
Missed this - Sheedy extended his deal last year so assume he's got at least 2 more seasons & probably 3. Lloyd signed a 4 year deal (19/20 season) and think he extended as well.FKAS wrote: Bristol are going to lose Sheedy possibly next summer unless there's some extension clauses in his contract due to the Welsh selection rules. Finn Smith in with Lloyd would maybe be to inexperienced for them but they can't keep putting their eggs in a basket for the Welsh to take home
Yes quite right they added on another year for Sheedy to 2022 about a year after his last renewal. I'd missed the second contract top up.jimKRFC wrote:Missed this - Sheedy extended his deal last year so assume he's got at least 2 more seasons & probably 3. Lloyd signed a 4 year deal (19/20 season) and think he extended as well.FKAS wrote: Bristol are going to lose Sheedy possibly next summer unless there's some extension clauses in his contract due to the Welsh selection rules. Finn Smith in with Lloyd would maybe be to inexperienced for them but they can't keep putting their eggs in a basket for the Welsh to take home
And they are starting 20 year old Will Haydon-Wood for the game this weekend. They might just find long term answers to the playmaker question already at home.Epaminondas Pules wrote:Falcons have Louie Johnson who has just come up out of the Academy.Puja wrote:Who could use a young fly-half? Wasps, Quins, Exeter, Bath, Glaws, Briz, Northampton, and Saracens all have young tyros of their own. Sale have Wilkinson, although he's a bit older than the average tyro without having broken through. Leicester have Lancaster, although he could just as easily be developed as a centre. Do Newcastle have anyone? Irish? You wouldn't've said they were a significant step up from Wuss.
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Not taken long to get invovled - he's on the bench against Exeter tomorrow.Adam_P wrote:I think I might add Litchfield to the ones to watch for Saints. Wasn't sure he'd get much first team time this season, but he's featured heavily in pre season so maybe Boyd is keen
Never forget he’s from BedfordAdam_P wrote:Not taken long to get invovled - he's on the bench against Exeter tomorrow.Adam_P wrote:I think I might add Litchfield to the ones to watch for Saints. Wasn't sure he'd get much first team time this season, but he's featured heavily in pre season so maybe Boyd is keen
12 for Bedford this week.Adam_P wrote:Not taken long to get invovled - he's on the bench against Exeter tomorrow.Adam_P wrote:I think I might add Litchfield to the ones to watch for Saints. Wasn't sure he'd get much first team time this season, but he's featured heavily in pre season so maybe Boyd is keen