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Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:49 am
by Scrumhead
Scrumhead wrote:Mikey Brown wrote:Murley barely gets a mention compared to Lynagh and Green but he has been absolutely class.
100% agree. He’s always quietly very good, but tonight he was excellent. Great going forward and
that steal when we were under pressure was an important moment.
This one … it was a textbook turnover. Great work on the deck and was probably the catalyst for the momentum shift.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:20 pm
by Timbo
Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:25 pm
by Mellsblue
Yep. Also a great advert for coaches not making the game overly/too structured. I think Quins have it pretty much spot on but, as Lam will tell you, there is a balance to find and it has a small sweet spot. It also helps when you have the players they do.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:15 pm
by Beasties
jimKRFC wrote:Beasties wrote:
Then he utterly destroyed Lahiff in the scrum a couple of mins later and Green scored in the corner.
I think the scrum went to buts when Vui moved to second row, can't face looking at the game to check though.
It would seem that he's just not providing enough power to hold the front row there. Against Bath (I think) he stayed in the back row and the scrum stayed steady.
The first 30 mins showed the team/plan is ok, the last 50 showed we need some playing changes I think. Defence coach should be getting worried though.
Vui started at lock or is that not what you meant? Thomas went off and Lahiff came on at LH. He's been playing TH recently hasn't he? In which case he appeared to have forgotten how to play LH, his former position.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:08 pm
by jimKRFC
Vui started at 6 with Joyce and Hodges in the 2nd row, as Luatua didnt start (Harding went to 8). Then he shifted over when Dan Thomas came on for Joyce.
So possibly a bit both - Lahif on the wrong side, less power from 2nd row.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:33 pm
by Beasties
jimKRFC wrote:Vui started at 6 with Joyce and Hodges in the 2nd row, as Luatua didnt start (Harding went to 8). Then he shifted over when Dan Thomas came on for Joyce.
So possibly a bit both - Lahif on the wrong side, less power from 2nd row.
Ah, gotcha. I'd just referred back to the teamsheet at the start of this thread.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:15 pm
by FKAS
Timbo wrote:Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
I'm very interested to see their game Vs Sale next week. Well if Sale can get some players back from injury. A big nasty Sale pack that won't allow Quins front foot ball and potentially a half back pairing of de Klerk and McGinty who'll not allow an easy open game. That will be a good show of where Quins are when they're up against it. They laboured Vs Falcons at the start of the season though obviously without some big guns, though even labouring got all five points in the end.
If they see off Sale with the same intensity they did Bristol then bloody hell will they be sending a message. Just hope Sale can name a strong side so that we start the weekend off with a bang (again).
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:20 pm
by Mikey Brown
Timbo wrote:Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
Very keen to see how we deal with Saracens or Tiger's/Sale if they're having a good day. A team that are disciplined and accurate enough not to let the game get broken up and have the power to just go route 1.
I've watched the highlights back god knows how many times now and Murley ghosting Lloyd just gets better. I'm not sure what he's generally like as a defender but he's absolutely rapid and very agile. To see him left flailing like that, from a cross-kick that felt a little too lateral for Murley to really run on to, was so impressive. Obviously the turnover was massive too. He's quietly become quite a complete player and is a quality finisher.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:13 pm
by Peej
Green has been phenomenal too. You can see why there was no real fight to keep Brown
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:19 pm
by Mikey Brown
Peej wrote:Green has been phenomenal too. You can see why there was no real fight to keep Brown
I think it’s worked out better than expected with Green moving to fullback and Lynagh coming through, but I don’t think that’s how that decision went down.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:58 pm
by Numbers
Timbo wrote:Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
I wouldn't read too much into the result, Wasps beat Bristol quite easily at Ashton Gate in the first game and by a bigger margin than Quins.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:01 pm
by Numbers
Mikey Brown wrote:Timbo wrote:Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
Very keen to see how we deal with Saracens or Tiger's/Sale if they're having a good day. A team that are disciplined and accurate enough not to let the game get broken up and have the power to just go route 1.
I've watched the highlights back god knows how many times now and
Murley ghosting Lloyd just gets better. I'm not sure what he's generally like as a defender but he's absolutely rapid and very agile. To see him left flailing like that, from a cross-kick that felt a little too lateral for Murley to really run on to, was so impressive. Obviously the turnover was massive too. He's quietly become quite a complete player and is a quality finisher.
Lloyd is a 10 playing on the wing, you would expect any proper winger to gas him, he's only played there by Bristol because of his footwork as he can finish well when inside the 22 with his elusive stepping.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:40 pm
by Timbo
Numbers wrote:Timbo wrote:Struggling to think of a more potent English club team than this current Quins bunch. Genuinely feel like they can put 40 points on anyone at the moment.
I wouldn't read too much into the result, Wasps beat Bristol quite easily at Ashton Gate in the first game and by a bigger margin than Quins.
Not basing my assessment on just one game. They are the champions after all. I’m sure their attack will get figured out a bit as we go along, but right now they average nearly 6 try’s a game over their last 10 fixtures.
Re: Quins vs Bristol, Friday, October 8th (7.45pm KO)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:16 pm
by FKAS
Peej wrote:Green has been phenomenal too. You can see why there was no real fight to keep Brown
Gustard was slammed for it at the time but getting Brown's contract off the wage bill and using the cheaper as well as younger Green and Nick David should be a long term gain to Quins. Nobody likes saying goodbye to a club stalwart but it had to happen sooner or later.
Green has been electric for Quins since he got the starting job after Brown's suspension.