RugbyRebels

Which Tyler wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Which Tyler wrote: Do they have anyone left to enforce it?

I bet they have got plenty of riot police left - Putin isnt going to leave himself unprotected.

Lenty of Russian riot police in Ukraine isn't there?
Probably from the provinces though, can afford much death toll from the cities

I'm not understanding why Putin would want martial law at this point. Is there much dissent?

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: I bet they have got plenty of riot police left - Putin isnt going to leave himself unprotected.

Lenty of Russian riot police in Ukraine isn't there?
Probably from the provinces though, can afford much death toll from the cities

I'm not understanding why Putin would want martial law at this point. Is there much dissent?

Probably less about the common people and more about making sure no-one in the inner circle feels secure enough to be measuring up his back for a knife. No-one likes a strongman that's losing a war.

Puja

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: I bet they have got plenty of riot police left - Putin isnt going to leave himself unprotected.

Lenty of Russian riot police in Ukraine isn't there?
Probably from the provinces though, can afford much death toll from the cities

I'm not understanding why Putin would want martial law at this point. Is there much dissent?

There are shit tonnes of random fires all over Russia. Likely cause - sabotage via Molotov's by Russian resistance or SBU/CIA underground.

Frigate 'Admiral Makarov' is reportedly in flames after being hit by a Ukranian missile in the Black Sea.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 73007.html

Not sure what he's got left to say on May 9..recognising that there's a war going on now may mean 'co-belligerents' will be fair game; all going to plan.

Galfon wrote: Not sure what he's got left to say on May 9.

“My fellow Russians. The special military operation has been such a great success that I am going to rename it the special needs military operation. Huzzah!”

Puja wrote:

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Which Tyler wrote: Lenty of Russian riot police in Ukraine isn't there?
Probably from the provinces though, can afford much death toll from the cities

I'm not understanding why Putin would want martial law at this point. Is there much dissent?

Probably less about the common people and more about making sure no-one in the inner circle feels secure enough to be measuring up his back for a knife. No-one likes a strongman that's losing a war.

Puja

Dictatorships traditionally have very poor pension plans.

It’s an unorthodox way for repelling the Russians but I reckon it will work.

Mellsblue wrote:It’s an unorthodox way for repelling the Russians but I reckon it will work.

Tweet appears to have disappeared?

Puja

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Experience has shown how difficult it is to keep a bees nest wrapped under an overcoat, certainly taking personal risks you would think but surely a matter of time now..
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... r-articles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics

The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.

Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics

The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.

Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.
But the bit of isolating Britain from Europe is an interesting one. Had sad that so many in this country helped that objective to be realised.

Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics

The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.

Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.
But the bit of isolating Britain from Europe is an interesting one. Had sad that so many in this country helped that objective to be realised.

Scary book. Looks like job done with the UK though. Or will be when Truss and the rest of those idiots rip up their own treaty and cause a trade war with the EU.

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics

The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.

Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.
But the bit of isolating Britain from Europe is an interesting one. Had sad that so many in this country helped that objective to be realised.

Scary book. Looks like job done with the UK though. Or will be when Truss and the rest of those idiots rip up their own treaty and cause a trade war with the EU.

Brexit has destroyed the Tory party and left it firmly under the control of UKIP.

Sharing a bunch of stuff with you... first a rather prescient article from within Russia speaking against the hubristic tide.
https://russiandefpolicy.com/2022/02/07/

Second, I thought I'd transcribe a recent intercepted call I heard on Youtube leaked by the SBU. There is no English version so you'll have to bear with my translation. It is a occupier in Kherson talking to his girl back home. We start in media res... i.e. we don't get the whole conversation, but it seems she has maybe asked him whether he kills civilians... or at least asked him about how things are.

Soldier: Nastya, I don't want to tell you I'm there shooting civilian people, killing there, breaking knees. What is it to you?
Nastya: I don't know...
S: What did you want to know from me? I will not tell you, Nastya, how it is really. Nastya...
N: I hoped that you were not fighting.
S: Nastya, my darling, of course I am fighting. What are you thinking?
N: ...
S: Nastya, you know, I can take a person, and go "BAM" in the head with a Kalashnikov machine gun, riddle a person with PKM ammo, yes. Tear the head off. You what? You don't believe this? I've become a dumbfuck, I've gone completely mad.
N: How will life with you be?
S: Well, I can kill people. In general, in the head. I simply kill in the head. I am not scared.
N: Are you proud of this?
S: I am not proud of this. I just don't give a fuck. I will come home. I will come home alive and well. And everything. I'll bring up a son...
N: [tries to say something but is cut off]
S: Nastya, I'll bring up a son, that's how it is, that's how it needs to be. Nastya... when there were civilians, I threw the civilians in a ditch. Shot them all in the head. Killed them all. They cried.. begged me. I shot them all the same. Nastya, you don't see me. That I am your such "good" (??). I am yours, as I am, I will come as I am. Nastya, I will perhaps be a dumbfuck, but I will come to you.
N: You said so already. Good that you will come. Now talking...
S: I never told you any lies, and I will not, Nast. I put these khokhols on their knees. They beg me, they say 'Russia forever'. And I force them all to say 'Russia forever'. I have them on their knees, these khokhols. I make them. So you don't need to talk to me.

edit: better translation here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSob9glX0AA ... name=large

There’s some clear morale issues in the Russian army at the moment.

Wtf is Macron playing at?!?! Saying that Ukraine must give up territory to avoid humiliating Putin, and that EU membership will take years (it will but there’s no need to so blatantly announce it). Has he spent so long ‘negotiating’ whether Putin that he’s developed Stockholm Syndrome!?!

Sandydragon wrote:There’s some clear morale issues in the Russian army at the moment.

Moral too.

Mellsblue wrote:Wtf is Macron playing at?!?! Saying that Ukraine must give up territory to avoid humiliating Putin, and that EU membership will take years (it will but there’s no need to so blatantly announce it). Has he spent so long ‘negotiating’ whether Putin that he’s developed Stockholm Syndrome!?!

I assume those yellow jackets want petrol prices low.

Zhivago wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Wtf is Macron playing at?!?! Saying that Ukraine must give up territory to avoid humiliating Putin, and that EU membership will take years (it will but there’s no need to so blatantly announce it). Has he spent so long ‘negotiating’ whether Putin that he’s developed Stockholm Syndrome!?!

I assume those yellow jackets want petrol prices low.

Nothing like encouraging a sick man with a god complex who has his finger on a nuclear trigger.

Fuck you vlad

https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/news ... ne/2531268

A very strong statement according many commentators. Let’s hope action is as strong as the words.

To add to his crimes, that bastard Putin lost us Eurovision last night.

Son of Mathonwy wrote:To add to his crimes, that bastard Putin lost us Eurovision last night.

https://ria.ru/20220515/ukraina-1788680071.html

The world they live in is so divorced from reality