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Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:11 pm
by p/d
Mellsblue wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm
Insouciant wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:12 pm
Beasties wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:19 pm

Well that’s bollox because Cole dived on the ball. I’ve never trusted these stats anyway.
I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was convinced I saw him dive on the ball then those stats came up and I doubted myself for a second.
This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.
It was a game changing moment. Probably deserved more column inch’s than it got.

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:24 pm
by jngf
p/d wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:09 pm
jngf wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:26 pm On the rugby press they really are a sycophantic bunch - daily Torygraph blowing smoke rings up the ice man’s fundament
(Pitbull duly excepted) - go web harvest that :)
When he actually plays well are you surprised. Though the DT gave Lawes and Earl higher rating. And rightly so.
More like discombobulatingly astonished :)

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:01 pm
by Puja
Mr Mwenda wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:36 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm
Insouciant wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:12 pm

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was convinced I saw him dive on the ball then those stats came up and I doubted myself for a second.
This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.
It's bollocks, innit? He was clearly pushed.
'E slapped 'im ref! 'E's not allowed to 'it 'im!

Puja

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:23 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Puja wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:01 pm
Mr Mwenda wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:36 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm
This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.
It's bollocks, innit? He was clearly pushed.
'E slapped 'im ref! 'E's not allowed to 'it 'im!

Puja
Insert picture of an impassive Raynal looking at someone else.

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 pm
by UKHamlet
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
FKAS wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.
As an aside, I just found out Kwagga Smith's real name is Albertus.

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:32 pm
by FKAS
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 pm
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
FKAS wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.
As an aside, I just found out Kwagga Smith's real name is Albertus.
8-) Albertus Stephanus Smith

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:22 pm
by Puja
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 pm
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
FKAS wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.
As an aside, I just found out Kwagga Smith's real name is Albertus.
Your name is Albertus Smith and you decide the part that needs changing is not "Smith"? Wild.

Puja

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm
by p/d
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.
See what happens when you identify a player with 'dog'. He gets to chance his arm with a new role.

Re: QF v Fiji

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:04 pm
by jngf
p/d wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm
UKHamlet wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.
See what happens when you identify a player with 'dog'. He gets to chance his arm with a new role.
I would have said T Curry remains top for dog ….and through gritted teeth, the Fazmeister