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Mellsblue wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm

Insouciant wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:12 pm

Beasties wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:19 pm

Well that’s bollox because Cole dived on the ball. I’ve never trusted these stats anyway.

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was convinced I saw him dive on the ball then those stats came up and I doubted myself for a second.

This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.

p/d wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:09 pm

jngf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:26 pm On the rugby press they really are a sycophantic bunch - daily Torygraph blowing smoke rings up the ice man’s fundament
(Pitbull duly excepted) - go web harvest that

When he actually plays well are you surprised. Though the DT gave Lawes and Earl higher rating. And rightly so.

Mr Mwenda wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:36 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm

Insouciant wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:12 pm

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I was convinced I saw him dive on the ball then those stats came up and I doubted myself for a second.

This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.

It's bollocks, innit? He was clearly pushed.

Puja wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:01 pm

Mr Mwenda wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:36 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:14 pm
This is what it’s come to. We’re debating whether Cole dived on a ball.

It's bollocks, innit? He was clearly pushed.

'E slapped 'im ref! 'E's not allowed to 'it 'im!

Puja

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 pm

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.

As an aside, I just found out Kwagga Smith's real name is Albertus.

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 pm

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am

FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:24 am Chessum made one absolute monster hit which led to a Lawes turnover the phase after. The commentators bigged up the hit but commenced the Lawes love in as he made the turnover.

ESPN stats have him making a pass but no carries. So he touched the ball. According to these stats Cole, George and Curry also ran for no metres. Feels like there was a definite split in duties for the forwards of who was carrying and who was on ruck duty. Curry made 20 tackles, Chessum made 11, George 13 and Cole 6.

I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.

As an aside, I just found out Kwagga Smith's real name is Albertus.

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.

p/d wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:50 pm

UKHamlet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
I've highlighted Chessum before. He is the one forward in the England pack that has that undefinable quality "Dog". You can smell it all over the park with South Africa, especially Kwagga. It's the difference.

See what happens when you identify a player with 'dog'. He gets to chance his arm with a new role.