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gransoporro wrote:

Coco wrote:Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.

According to Barr it will have to wait a few more months.

Since my expectations of Barr went so low after his appointment, I can speculate 2 possibilities:
- Durham needs more time to find something that can be used for spin because there is nothing much there
- Durham found something, but they are waiting for a time when the presidential campaign is in full swing for maximum effect

I have a feeling Durham found something because Barr has insinuated a few things but who knows... nothing is surprising me. I think they are holding off until closer to the election as you said.

morepork wrote:

Coco wrote:Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.

Why is the orange man so reluctant to stand his ground in a public forum?

My guess would be that his handlers have advised him not to.

So here’s another cool new entry in the fake news/social media war.

Taking people out of context is certainly nothing new, but there’s something particularly jarring about this example. Knowing that many, many people will see this and have it further cement their opinions is just a bit sad. And the “hypocrisy” is all reinforced by black people generally being a bit uppity about lynchings for some reason.

Coco wrote:

gransoporro wrote:

Coco wrote:Nothing can go further if Pelosi etc keeps stalling sending the impeachment "paperwork" to the senate. She is not supposed to be holding on to it so we will see how it finally pans out. I hope it goes to trial, but would like to see Durhams report as well. Crazy shit slinging to come Id imagine.

According to Barr it will have to wait a few more months.

Since my expectations of Barr went so low after his appointment, I can speculate 2 possibilities:
- Durham needs more time to find something that can be used for spin because there is nothing much there
- Durham found something, but they are waiting for a time when the presidential campaign is in full swing for maximum effect

I have a feeling Durham found something because Barr has insinuated a few things but who knows... nothing is surprising me. I think they are holding off until closer to the election as you said.

If they've found something do you think they've not told Trump given Trump essentially vomits weird theories or newly learned facts he thinks make him look good? The Solipsistic Presidency and all that

All seems rather weird to me given the FBI were for various reasons looking at both candidates or people connected to them and actually released commentary on Clinton that damaged her campaign, and yet here we are with the winning candidate crying (whining) foul, and doing so when he and others have clearly broken the law.

Sounds like Mulvaney is gone as Chief of Staff, whether he's leaving OMB too I've not heard anything about, but I assume you wouldn't hang around after such a demotion. Whether it's Pat Cipollone coming in isn't known, at least not to the wider comment, but as the WH Counsel he's been working hard to oust Mulvaney so he can take the spot, there are though rumours about Mark Meadows, Meadows has been avidly pro Trump whilst in Congress, and in unconnected news has just announced he will be standing down from Congress

“Take your religion and take your guns”.

The fucked up side of ‘murruca in a nutshell courtesy of the dumbest cunt in all of Christendom.

Digby wrote:

Coco wrote:

gransoporro wrote:
According to Barr it will have to wait a few more months.

Since my expectations of Barr went so low after his appointment, I can speculate 2 possibilities:
- Durham needs more time to find something that can be used for spin because there is nothing much there
- Durham found something, but they are waiting for a time when the presidential campaign is in full swing for maximum effect

I have a feeling Durham found something because Barr has insinuated a few things but who knows... nothing is surprising me. I think they are holding off until closer to the election as you said.

If they've found something do you think they've not told Trump given Trump essentially vomits weird theories or newly learned facts he thinks make him look good? The Solipsistic Presidency and all that

All seems rather weird to me given the FBI were for various reasons looking at both candidates or people connected to them and actually released commentary on Clinton that damaged her campaign, and yet here we are with the winning candidate crying (whining) foul, and doing so when he and others have clearly broken the law.

Wait for it... I suspect more to come.

Coco wrote:

Digby wrote:

Coco wrote:
I have a feeling Durham found something because Barr has insinuated a few things but who knows... nothing is surprising me. I think they are holding off until closer to the election as you said.

If they've found something do you think they've not told Trump given Trump essentially vomits weird theories or newly learned facts he thinks make him look good? The Solipsistic Presidency and all that

All seems rather weird to me given the FBI were for various reasons looking at both candidates or people connected to them and actually released commentary on Clinton that damaged her campaign, and yet here we are with the winning candidate crying (whining) foul, and doing so when he and others have clearly broken the law.

Wait for it... I suspect more to come.

An actual thing, or more gibberish conspiracy theories, lies, and kindergarten level lack of comprehension?

Digby wrote:

Coco wrote:

Digby wrote:
If they've found something do you think they've not told Trump given Trump essentially vomits weird theories or newly learned facts he thinks make him look good? The Solipsistic Presidency and all that

All seems rather weird to me given the FBI were for various reasons looking at both candidates or people connected to them and actually released commentary on Clinton that damaged her campaign, and yet here we are with the winning candidate crying (whining) foul, and doing so when he and others have clearly broken the law.

Wait for it... I suspect more to come.

An actual thing, or more gibberish conspiracy theories, lies, and kindergarten level lack of comprehension?

I bet on the latter. Something yes, not much. But lots of spin.

So a man walks into an auditorium, stands in front of a crowd and says :

"We'll have an economy based on wind, I never understood wind yet I know windmills very well much, I've studied it better than anybody. It's very expensive. They're made In China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none. But they're manufactured, tremendous, if you're into this, tremendous fumes, gases, are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world right? So the world is tiny, compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything, you talk, you talk about the carbon footprint! Fumes are spewing into the air right, spewing!"

I've had to rather guess at the punctuation, though that might be the lesser problem if what he's saying is coal is better than wind when it comes to energy

Digby wrote:So a man walks into an auditorium, stands in front of a crowd and says :

"We'll have an economy based on wind, I never understood wind yet I know windmills very well much, I've studied it better than anybody. It's very expensive. They're made In China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none. But they're manufactured, tremendous, if you're into this, tremendous fumes, gases, are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world right? So the world is tiny, compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything, you talk, you talk about the carbon footprint! Fumes are spewing into the air right, spewing!"

I've had to rather guess at the punctuation, though that might be the lesser problem if what he's saying is coal is better than wind when it comes to energy

Thank you for taking the time to transcribe that; I hated every word of it.

I think his argument may be that, because the universe is very big, CO2 emissions are negligible in the grand scheme of the universe. Which is... true, I guess, as long as we're got a foothold across the whole universe.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Digby wrote:So a man walks into an auditorium, stands in front of a crowd and says :

"We'll have an economy based on wind, I never understood wind yet I know windmills very well much, I've studied it better than anybody. It's very expensive. They're made In China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none. But they're manufactured, tremendous, if you're into this, tremendous fumes, gases, are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world right? So the world is tiny, compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything, you talk, you talk about the carbon footprint! Fumes are spewing into the air right, spewing!"

I've had to rather guess at the punctuation, though that might be the lesser problem if what he's saying is coal is better than wind when it comes to energy

Thank you for taking the time to transcribe that; I hated every word of it.

I think his argument may be that, because the universe is very big, CO2 emissions are negligible in the grand scheme of the universe. Which is... true, I guess, as long as we're got a foothold across the whole universe.

Puja

So you're saying the problem is he has no idea what the atmosphere is, and thus nothing to even start to base an understanding of climate on? It's sadly all too possible.

All this to justify coal. Does he have any idea whatsoever how stupid he comes across as?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna10 ... ssion=true

Mmm, tasty.

morepork wrote:All this to justify coal. Does he have any idea whatsoever how stupid he comes across as?

With this speech he will have convinced some subset of his followers that wind power is less green than coal.

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

morepork wrote:All this to justify coal. Does he have any idea whatsoever how stupid he comes across as?

With this speech he will have convinced some subset of his followers that wind power is less green than coal.

Americans are now free to say Merry Christmas and put their genitalia into pigs without the socialist imposed burden of windmill cancer.

Mikey Brown wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna10 ... ssion=true

Mmm, tasty.

And it's just a matter of time before our own glorious leader moves the UK to the same standards.

On the plus side, it will give the vegetarian movement a boost.

morepork wrote:

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

morepork wrote:All this to justify coal. Does he have any idea whatsoever how stupid he comes across as?

With this speech he will have convinced some subset of his followers that wind power is less green than coal.

Americans are now free to say Merry Christmas and put their genitalia into pigs without the socialist imposed burden of windmill cancer.

Cameron wanted all the pigs for himself, but with Boris we'll all have that freedom.

Many small winkies can be accommodated in this finite space. They can sword fight while pissing in the deregulated environment

#pigfucker

It would seem industry interests have almost completely taken over the EPA and USDA. See here for one of the most cynical and short sighted environmental policy initiatives you will ever see:

https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/regulatory ... k-tracker/

For anyone arguing that this level of deregulation is necessary, I invite you to accompany me on a tour of North Eastern Pennsylvania mining towns that are now unfit for habitation and will be devoid of clean water, arable land, wildlife, and breathable air for hundreds of years. This is a fuck up on a massive scale.

It's a big year coming up for Agent Orange, he's got his Senate trial, the naming of the Democratic candidate, and then an election campaign to run without the courts due to rule on abortion, on the dreamers, on his taxes, anything else big sat with the courts that looms over the coming election?

Hard in advance to know what the big stories will be, especially with the wildcards of Iran and North Korea, harder still to get a read on what it'll mean in a country willing to elect Trump in the first place

I drove from Chicago to bumfuck Western Ohio this week (don't ask) and there is a metric shit tonnes worth of angry white people that are convinced the country is being invaded by evil outside parties. They stew in their white christian hamlets, surrounded by other anxious crackers, under no threat whatsoever but are adamant that they are losing the country. One mild mannered black man at the helm for eight years just fucked their mechanism. They are oblivious to ballooning debt, a 42 billion dollar loss of GDP and a gutting of the manufacturing sector from a bizzarre self-inflicted trade war, billions of lost tax revenue from an overhaul that has resulted in no corporate tax whatsoever paid by companies that have made over 80 billion in profit and now sees the top 500 wealthiest families in the country with a lower income tax rate than the working class, and on and on. This administration consistently makes more poor decisions than Owen Farrell in the opposition 22, but as long as the xenophobic hot air keeps coming, they are convinced that it is all worth it to keep grubby godless dark-hued foreigners from their culture of jebus, ignorance, gunz, and shit food. They actually adhere ti this white genocide shit. It's completely repugnant.

Possibly the most worrying thing in there is the reminder they still refer to the metric tonne when in the rest of the world that's surely a tautology, who would assume a non metric tonne if you simply used tonne? That's where the focus should be!