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Mikey Brown wrote:Pence refuses to answer reporters questions whether uninsured people can get tested for Coronovirus. I'd post the video but I don't want to get told off. Was there any clarification given on this?

It is designated an essential benefit, which means that insurance is obliged to cover the cost under the Affordable Care Act. The more acute issue is getting the test kits out in sufficient numbers to cut off spread. That is one problem that flinging dollars at would help address quickly. First case on the East Coast was reported this morning. Meanwhile, in Orange Narnia, this sage wisdom on the WHO prediction of world wide mortality rates has been offered on national television:

"Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor,"

"You never hear about those people. So you can't put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and — or virus. So you just can't do that," he continued. "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work but they get better."

"But again, they don't know about the easy cases because the easy cases don't go to the hospital. They don't report to doctors or the hospital, in many cases," Trump said. "So I think that that number is very high. I think the number, personally, I would say the number is way under 1 percent."

Asymptomatic carriers: just go to work. I have a hunch that there is, like, a tremendously small chance of, you know, getting other people infect.


Righty ho man, righty ho.

I don't even know how to start comprehending all that. I can even understand the logic in thinking there may be many undiagnosed, mild cases of the virus but what purpose is it serving to make any of these claims in public? I guess talking to a lot of people who do a lot of things and say a lot of stuff is as much clarity as we need on that.

At least they are obliged to test people for it under ACA, though even that sounds like it may be futile if they can't reach people.

morepork wrote:
Meanwhile, in Orange Narnia, this sage wisdom on the WHO prediction of world wide mortality rates has been offered on national television:

"Well, I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number. Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild. They'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor,"

"You never hear about those people. So you can't put them down in the category of the overall population in terms of this corona flu and — or virus. So you just can't do that," he continued. "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work but they get better."

"But again, they don't know about the easy cases because the easy cases don't go to the hospital. They don't report to doctors or the hospital, in many cases," Trump said. "So I think that that number is very high. I think the number, personally, I would say the number is way under 1 percent."

I will translate that bit. As you know, Trump tweets are professionally interpreted on cable network every day, so trust me, I know what I am doing. Just like I spoke to the president...

[Trump]
I am scared not of a pandemic and the related death toll, I will when the pandemics actually arrives.

Right now, since I focus on the very, VERY short term, I am scared of the effects of the pandemic SCARE on the financial markets. No, not on the economy, I said on the financial markets.

So I am addressing it in the best possible way, which is my way. I will minimize and make stuff up and wing it to tell everyone to go to work, don’t stop production or shopping, just keep going. Everything is fine. Move along, nothing to see here!

[/Trump]

My opinion: nothing to do with responsible actions, careful thought, etc. These are impulsive actions elevated to method.

In case it is not clear, I don’t want Sanders to be the alternative to Trump. But if he is nominated, I will vote him in November and I will go home happy. Happy because I will have done my duty towards the US.

morepork wrote:
Asymptomatic carriers: just go to work. I have a hunch that there is, like, a tremendously small chance of, you know, getting other people infect.

If they don't go to work the economy suffers and that hurts Trump. Some dead people might not hurt him as much, especially if he can blame it on foreign types.

On the plus side, there are some really cheap airfares going at the moment.

Climate killer!

The breakdown of the votes from Tuesday is telling a familiar story, young people were too busy to actually go and vote, they'd much rather complain on social media after the fact

Anyone under 80 probably had to work Tuesday.

Warren gone.................

Banquo wrote:Warren gone.................

But Gabbard is still in!

gransoporro wrote:

Banquo wrote:Warren gone.................

But Gabbard is still in!

going for the under the radar approach

So having either lied or been mistaken about there only being 15 people with coronavirus in the US and that number trending down, and then either lying or being mistaken about how vaccines work it's comforting to know Trump has moved on to talking about maths being wrong 'cause he has a hunch. It's inspiring leadership

Does he think he's negotiating with the virus?

When you make Mike "Conversion Therapy" Pence look stately, you know you are in trouble.

Somewhat related....how dirty are fucking cruise ships? Get thousands of people from all parts of the globe together in a confined space, let them infect each other, then let them off en-masse to nice places like Venice. I wonder what the STD rates are on one of those repulsive floating petri dishes?

Digby wrote:

morepork wrote:

Digby wrote:We can still take action against the new media and online empires, if someone actually has some good ideas on what that should mean and be able to drive implementation. I don't know how much I'd actually blame legislators not being ready in advance for changes very few predicted accurately, and certainly not in such a timely fashion you could consider and pass decent legislation

They should have. If the tech nerds that created it could see it coming, and why would they have invested in/lobbied for it so hard if they didn't, then why couldn't legislators? There is still time to cut some of it off. Every converted physicist and statistician that traded in science for financial algorithms can still see it happening.

I don't know how many of those physicists you've met but I wouldn't bet the bank on their predictions (or ask them about their algorithms), also I doubt anyone setting up Google, Facebook or Twitter had any idea we'd end up where we have, just as I doubt Microsoft truly saw the big picture looking to the future.

Regardless of how unpredictable the emergence of Google, Facebook and Twitter was they can be dealt with through regulation, enforced corporate break-up or even nationalisation. If there was the political will to do so.

Unfortunately, as the treatment of Microsoft/Windows has shown, there is no such political will.

morepork wrote:When you make Mike "Conversion Therapy" Pence look stately, you know you are in trouble.

Somewhat related....how dirty are fucking cruise ships? Get thousands of people from all parts of the globe together in a confined space, let them infect each other, then let them off en-masse to nice places like Venice. I wonder what the STD rates are on one of those repulsive floating petri dishes?

They're planes you spend more time in with all that recycled air, and at least you spend at worst maybe a day flying. I confess to feeling sorry for the crew, but the passengers are a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Digby wrote:

morepork wrote:

They should have. If the tech nerds that created it could see it coming, and why would they have invested in/lobbied for it so hard if they didn't, then why couldn't legislators? There is still time to cut some of it off. Every converted physicist and statistician that traded in science for financial algorithms can still see it happening.

I don't know how many of those physicists you've met but I wouldn't bet the bank on their predictions (or ask them about their algorithms), also I doubt anyone setting up Google, Facebook or Twitter had any idea we'd end up where we have, just as I doubt Microsoft truly saw the big picture looking to the future.

Regardless of how unpredictable the emergence of Google, Facebook and Twitter was they can be dealt with through regulation, enforced corporate break-up or even nationalisation. If there was the political will to do so.

Unfortunately, as the treatment of Microsoft/Windows has shown, there is no such political will.

They're going to have to think about what they want to do and how they're going to do it. Else what's coming down the line is a world run by Google, or maybe Amazon, the East India Company will be as nothing compared to the power they'll have if left unchecked

morepork wrote:Anyone under 80 probably had to work Tuesday.

Possibly even 2-3 different jobs. But decisions aren't made by people who can't be bothered to vote, and this is becoming a worrying trend that the kids can't be bothered to be counted

Digby wrote:

morepork wrote:Anyone under 80 probably had to work Tuesday.

Possibly even 2-3 different jobs. But decisions aren't made by people who can't be bothered to vote, and this is becoming a worrying trend that the kids can't be bothered to be counted

Is this you acknowledging a lot of people can’t take time of work or is this you saying they’re lazy and can’t be bothered. It’s hard to tell.

Mikey Brown wrote:

Digby wrote:

morepork wrote:Anyone under 80 probably had to work Tuesday.

Possibly even 2-3 different jobs. But decisions aren't made by people who can't be bothered to vote, and this is becoming a worrying trend that the kids can't be bothered to be counted

Is this you acknowledging a lot of people can’t take time of work or is this you saying they’re lazy and can’t be bothered. It’s hard to tell.

That they might be busy but can't be bothered.

Busy and lazy all at once.

morepork wrote:When you make Mike "Conversion Therapy" Pence look stately, you know you are in trouble.

Somewhat related....how dirty are fucking cruise ships? Get thousands of people from all parts of the globe together in a confined space, let them infect each other, then let them off en-masse to nice places like Venice. I wonder what the STD rates are on one of those repulsive floating petri dishes?

It's not that they're dirty, it's that it's a group of people in a confined space for a prolonged period.

Yes, I made that assumption. A compromised incubator then.

Remember kids, when the going gets tough, the tough go golfing.

And bringing it back to Trump, just a reminder:



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