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Which Tyler wrote:
Stom wrote:Anti-vaccine, looking like that, organic food, home schooling, Al symbols of “liberalism”, not conservatism. Something that would usually appear on the left of the “spectrum”.

We’re skills really reclassify towards humanist and elitist. And at the moment, how many humanist governments are there in the world? Not many...
I've no idea who he is, or what he's about - or even what he looks like; but Anti-Vacc and home schooling are pretty defining traits of libertarianism, I'm not familiar with either being considered traits of liberalism - organic food spans the spectrum, and is definitely strong with libertarians.


ETA: Sorry, have scrolled up (duh) Jay Weaver is Jax Weaver, the lady in the tweeted photo - who could only look more libertarian if she had an AK47 in her hands and a pistol in her daughter's.
The only thing that makes her even slightly left-leaning is that she "looks like" she smokes pot - which is still right bang centre of libertarianism and again, spans the political spectrum in all ways bar stereotype.
Well, yes.

Sorry, forgot about the existence of libertarians for a second, as the two are tied together somewhat here, plus over here the liberals...aren't generally very liberal, lol.

But I know a lot of people who look like that. I wouldn't think that she was a pot smoker first, because, well, anyone can be a pot smoker, but that she's someone who buys organic, doesn't vaccinate, etc.
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Stom wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Stom wrote:Anti-vaccine, looking like that, organic food, home schooling, Al symbols of “liberalism”, not conservatism. Something that would usually appear on the left of the “spectrum”.

We’re skills really reclassify towards humanist and elitist. And at the moment, how many humanist governments are there in the world? Not many...
I've no idea who he is, or what he's about - or even what he looks like; but Anti-Vacc and home schooling are pretty defining traits of libertarianism, I'm not familiar with either being considered traits of liberalism - organic food spans the spectrum, and is definitely strong with libertarians.


ETA: Sorry, have scrolled up (duh) Jay Weaver is Jax Weaver, the lady in the tweeted photo - who could only look more libertarian if she had an AK47 in her hands and a pistol in her daughter's.
The only thing that makes her even slightly left-leaning is that she "looks like" she smokes pot - which is still right bang centre of libertarianism and again, spans the political spectrum in all ways bar stereotype.
Well, yes.

Sorry, forgot about the existence of libertarians for a second, as the two are tied together somewhat here, plus over here the liberals...aren't generally very liberal, lol.

But I know a lot of people who look like that. I wouldn't think that she was a pot smoker first, because, well, anyone can be a pot smoker, but that she's someone who buys organic, doesn't vaccinate, etc.
I've been surprised by this combination of characteristics recently. Someone I know is a home educator, anti-vacc and I would generally have said she was fairly hippyish. But then I was surprised to see her justifying her anti-vacc and anti-WHO views with reference to Fox News and some even more far-right media. But it may be that I just don't know her well enough, and she's not a hippy at all, she's actually an extreme libertarian (without much scientific background).
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Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Stom wrote:
Which Tyler wrote: I've no idea who he is, or what he's about - or even what he looks like; but Anti-Vacc and home schooling are pretty defining traits of libertarianism, I'm not familiar with either being considered traits of liberalism - organic food spans the spectrum, and is definitely strong with libertarians.


ETA: Sorry, have scrolled up (duh) Jay Weaver is Jax Weaver, the lady in the tweeted photo - who could only look more libertarian if she had an AK47 in her hands and a pistol in her daughter's.
The only thing that makes her even slightly left-leaning is that she "looks like" she smokes pot - which is still right bang centre of libertarianism and again, spans the political spectrum in all ways bar stereotype.
Well, yes.

Sorry, forgot about the existence of libertarians for a second, as the two are tied together somewhat here, plus over here the liberals...aren't generally very liberal, lol.

But I know a lot of people who look like that. I wouldn't think that she was a pot smoker first, because, well, anyone can be a pot smoker, but that she's someone who buys organic, doesn't vaccinate, etc.
I've been surprised by this combination of characteristics recently. Someone I know is a home educator, anti-vacc and I would generally have said she was fairly hippyish. But then I was surprised to see her justifying her anti-vacc and anti-WHO views with reference to Fox News and some even more far-right media. But it may be that I just don't know her well enough, and she's not a hippy at all, she's actually an extreme libertarian (without much scientific background).
It recently turns out that a lot of people I thought were liberal are actually rather extreme fascists, really. They only want their own freedom, not anyone else. I think it's because of the way the world has been going. There's a "me, me, me" attitude among many groups around the world.
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That one is doing the rounds in Italy too.


BCG is being tested for conferral of resistance in front line health workers though:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04327206

It will be a year before any definitive data is out on that. In the meantime, knock yourself out with Lizard people and Bill Gates on FaceFuck.
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Stom wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Stom wrote:
Well, yes.

Sorry, forgot about the existence of libertarians for a second, as the two are tied together somewhat here, plus over here the liberals...aren't generally very liberal, lol.

But I know a lot of people who look like that. I wouldn't think that she was a pot smoker first, because, well, anyone can be a pot smoker, but that she's someone who buys organic, doesn't vaccinate, etc.
I've been surprised by this combination of characteristics recently. Someone I know is a home educator, anti-vacc and I would generally have said she was fairly hippyish. But then I was surprised to see her justifying her anti-vacc and anti-WHO views with reference to Fox News and some even more far-right media. But it may be that I just don't know her well enough, and she's not a hippy at all, she's actually an extreme libertarian (without much scientific background).
It recently turns out that a lot of people I thought were liberal are actually rather extreme fascists, really. They only want their own freedom, not anyone else. I think it's because of the way the world has been going. There's a "me, me, me" attitude among many groups around the world.
The person I mentioned is convinced that her only child's illnesses (although she doesn't seem particularly ill to me...) are caused by malevolent forces such as 5G, vaccines, all manner of chemicals in the environment, etc. It must be very stressful to think that everything is poisonous without much scientific knowledge to make sense of it all.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Stom wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote: I've been surprised by this combination of characteristics recently. Someone I know is a home educator, anti-vacc and I would generally have said she was fairly hippyish. But then I was surprised to see her justifying her anti-vacc and anti-WHO views with reference to Fox News and some even more far-right media. But it may be that I just don't know her well enough, and she's not a hippy at all, she's actually an extreme libertarian (without much scientific background).
It recently turns out that a lot of people I thought were liberal are actually rather extreme fascists, really. They only want their own freedom, not anyone else. I think it's because of the way the world has been going. There's a "me, me, me" attitude among many groups around the world.
The person I mentioned is convinced that her only child's illnesses (although she doesn't seem particularly ill to me...) are caused by malevolent forces such as 5G, vaccines, all manner of chemicals in the environment, etc. It must be very stressful to think that everything is poisonous without much scientific knowledge to make sense of it all.

Nothing a good plant extract diluted 1:1 000 000 000 000 000 000 won't fix.


Tell Typhoid Mary to stay home when a vaccine becomes available so she doesn't, you know, fuck up every one else's life.
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I’m generally trying to ignore him at the moment but this is pretty choice.

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What a comeback from El Trumpo. I don't recall brilliant. He is so lost.

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That really is special. And yet his fans will vote him in come November.
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A new low in petty irresponsibility. Missouri state government attempts to sue China for negligence:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52364797

The civil lawsuit, filed on Tuesday, is against the Chinese government, Chinese Communist Party and other Chinese officials and institutions.

"In Missouri, the impact of the virus is very real - thousands have been infected and many have died, families have been separated from dying loved ones, small businesses are shuttering their doors, and those living paycheck to paycheck are struggling to put food on their table," Mr Schmitt said in a statement.

"The Chinese government lied to the world about the danger and contagious nature of COVID-19, silenced whistleblowers, and did little to stop the spread of the disease," Mr Schmitt said. "They must be held accountable for their actions."


Projecting much?

This country is run by such pathetic tiny little men.
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Christ alive you'd struggle to sue your own government, why are there lawyers willing to waste their time trying to sue a foreign sovereign nation? Snowballs in hell have historically stood a better chance. I'm assuming this gets dismissed at the earliest opportunity and it's just some very weird grandstanding to bolster a wider publicity campaign
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morepork wrote:A new low in petty irresponsibility. Missouri state government attempts to sue China for negligence:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52364797

The civil lawsuit, filed on Tuesday, is against the Chinese government, Chinese Communist Party and other Chinese officials and institutions.

"In Missouri, the impact of the virus is very real - thousands have been infected and many have died, families have been separated from dying loved ones, small businesses are shuttering their doors, and those living paycheck to paycheck are struggling to put food on their table," Mr Schmitt said in a statement.

"The Chinese government lied to the world about the danger and contagious nature of COVID-19, silenced whistleblowers, and did little to stop the spread of the disease," Mr Schmitt said. "They must be held accountable for their actions."


Projecting much?

This country is run by such pathetic tiny little men.
An ambitious a tourney looking for a state governorship? Totally bonkers on many levels.
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"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning," the president said during the briefing, speaking to his health officials. "As you see it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

E-fucking-nuff. Come on.
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morepork wrote:"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning," the president said during the briefing, speaking to his health officials. "As you see it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

E-fucking-nuff. Come on.
Are you trying to say that the human body is not the same as a kitchen floor or pub urinal? Surely if that were true you would be president not Trump?
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Video, in case anyone thinks that's satire
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/d ... ovid-19-v1

He wants strong light inside people's bodies, and to inject disinfectant
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Which Tyler wrote:Video, in case anyone thinks that's satire
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/d ... ovid-19-v1

He wants strong light inside people's bodies, and to inject disinfectant
Heard it on the radio. WTAF. Surely there must be an abject stupidity clause somewhere in the constitution.
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canta_brian wrote:
morepork wrote:"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning," the president said during the briefing, speaking to his health officials. "As you see it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

E-fucking-nuff. Come on.
Are you trying to say that the human body is not the same as a kitchen floor or pub urinal? Surely if that were true you would be president not Trump?
Cue a wave of non-Covid19 deaths from drinking, snorting and injecting disinfectant.
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He's probably right in the sense drinking bleach/disinfectant will kill Covid sitting in the upper respiratory tract, okay he's going to fall foul of his own line on what do you have to lose, but if someone wants to try this I don't really mind unless they're doing it to children or hoping for medical assistance after the event

Edit - As an aside the latest absurd comments will distract from any coverage on Trump or his cronies benefiting financially from the various drugs they've pushed without cause during these times
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Wow. Right up there with 5G causing coronavirus. Which leads to people carrying out arson attacks on mosts, which is causing problems for the Airwave network, which paramedics rely on.

Pure genius.
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He was very complementary about Boris too following a recent call ;
https://www.ft.com/content/44a9620a-3ac ... c30caf8011
His course in Scotland may get support from the UK.
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Digby wrote:Edit - As an aside the latest absurd comments will distract from any coverage on Trump or his cronies benefiting financially from the various drugs they've pushed without cause during these times
Ha. You're saying that as if it isn't the entire game.

Trump gets lots of attention. Media frenzy keeps everybody clicking. GOP get to do whatever they want. Democrats get to moan and look virtuous. Everybody wins!
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“I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen,” Trump said Friday. He added that it was a “very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside.”

Of course it was sweetheart.
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Leaving to one side he didn't simply get part way through being the ideas man and positing we could inject people with disinfectant before realising he was out of his depth and start asking for people to speak to medical doctors, and supposing we instead oddly take him at his word he was just taking the piss, the question then would be what the blazes does he think he's doing using a press conference to update important information to entertain himself in such fashion?
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Incredible. His medical advisor looks totally stunned.
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