He is managing a perpetual leper colony with tremendous acumen . I am stuck in it.cashead wrote:Dude's a Failing Upwards elemental.morepork wrote:I don't think I have ever seen someone work so hard to broadcast their bumbling stupidity on a daily basis.
Trump
- morepork
- Posts: 7860
- Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm
Re: Trump
- Sandydragon
- Posts: 10305
- Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:13 pm
Re: Trump
And yet polling suggests that it could be a very tight election.morepork wrote:I don't think I have ever seen someone work so hard to broadcast their bumbling stupidity on a daily basis.
How much of that is due to Covid and Biden's lack of visibility or just the fact that he is an uninspiring candidate for many?
- morepork
- Posts: 7860
- Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm
Re: Trump
Because this country is half of fuckheads raised on a diet of misinformation and bullshit on toast. There is no other logical explanation. Trump is an utter train wreck. Every facet of his character is flawed, and everything he has touched has turned to dogshit. Anything he hasn't touched is being looted behind his back. He has no idea how government, the economy, science, or common sense works. He just is not up to it. How can anyone argue other wise, for the love of fuck?
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
Because a lot of people aren't aware of the details of what's going on. And those who do take an interest are mostly getting info from a source which aligns with their beliefs. I doubt Trump could survive under neutral press coverage.Sandydragon wrote:And yet polling suggests that it could be a very tight election.morepork wrote:I don't think I have ever seen someone work so hard to broadcast their bumbling stupidity on a daily basis.
How much of that is due to Covid and Biden's lack of visibility or just the fact that he is an uninspiring candidate for many?
-
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:10 pm
Re: Trump
If one side continually capitalises on average people’s fears, insecurities, prejudices etc. and the other side offers nothing more than posturing and “we’ll try and be better than those guys, I guess” it really isn’t that surprising.
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
This Trump shitshow is good for everyone at the top with any investment in sensational media coverage. It’s what keeps everything going. For a lot of people advocating for “the left”, losing isn’t necessarily worse than risking Bernie, or even Warren, mixing things up a bit.
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
This Trump shitshow is good for everyone at the top with any investment in sensational media coverage. It’s what keeps everything going. For a lot of people advocating for “the left”, losing isn’t necessarily worse than risking Bernie, or even Warren, mixing things up a bit.
- morepork
- Posts: 7860
- Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm
Re: Trump
It might be prudent to overhaul those checks and balances that are supposed to provide oversight for the executive branch of government, because this country is just about broken.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/p ... trump.html
"The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult.....he has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information and gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive."
'...the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.'
First smart arse to call "fake news" gets a small pox milkshake. Enough is enough. Get him out of the way. Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/p ... trump.html
"The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult.....he has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information and gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive."
'...the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.'
First smart arse to call "fake news" gets a small pox milkshake. Enough is enough. Get him out of the way. Now.
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
You've seen Idiocracy, right?morepork wrote:It might be prudent to overhaul those checks and balances that are supposed to provide oversight for the executive branch of government, because this country is just about broken.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/p ... trump.html
"The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult.....he has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information and gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive."
'...the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.'
First smart arse to call "fake news" gets a small pox milkshake. Enough is enough. Get him out of the way. Now.
- morepork
- Posts: 7860
- Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm
Re: Trump
Son of Mathonwy wrote:You've seen Idiocracy, right?morepork wrote:It might be prudent to overhaul those checks and balances that are supposed to provide oversight for the executive branch of government, because this country is just about broken.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/p ... trump.html
"The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult.....he has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information and gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive."
'...the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.'
First smart arse to call "fake news" gets a small pox milkshake. Enough is enough. Get him out of the way. Now.
I'm fucking living in it.
-
- Posts: 15261
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am
Re: Trump
Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.Mikey Brown wrote:
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
.
-
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:10 pm
Re: Trump
I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.Digby wrote:Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.Mikey Brown wrote:
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
.
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
In the name of sanity, surely this word cannot be here.Mikey Brown wrote:I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.Digby wrote:Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.Mikey Brown wrote:
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
.
- morepork
- Posts: 7860
- Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm
Re: Trump
President Trump on Thursday disclosed the results of his most recent coronavirus test, telling reporters he “tested positively toward negative.”
“I tested very positively in another sense,” Trump said on the South Lawn before departing for Michigan to visit a Ford plant that is assembling ventilators. “So this morning, yeah, I tested positively toward negative, right? So no, I tested perfectly this morning. Meaning, meaning I tested negative. But that’s a way of saying it, positively toward the negative."
Good job. Leading from the middle.
“I tested very positively in another sense,” Trump said on the South Lawn before departing for Michigan to visit a Ford plant that is assembling ventilators. “So this morning, yeah, I tested positively toward negative, right? So no, I tested perfectly this morning. Meaning, meaning I tested negative. But that’s a way of saying it, positively toward the negative."
Good job. Leading from the middle.
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
A head on collision between medical terminology and a man pathologically unable to admit to anything negative about himself. Neither emerged from the car crash unscathed.morepork wrote:President Trump on Thursday disclosed the results of his most recent coronavirus test, telling reporters he “tested positively toward negative.”
“I tested very positively in another sense,” Trump said on the South Lawn before departing for Michigan to visit a Ford plant that is assembling ventilators. “So this morning, yeah, I tested positively toward negative, right? So no, I tested perfectly this morning. Meaning, meaning I tested negative. But that’s a way of saying it, positively toward the negative."
Good job. Leading from the middle.
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
Trump is the kind of leader you expect to see several generations into a dictatorship or a monarchic dynasty. Thankfully he doesn't have the power that comes with those positions.morepork wrote:I'm fucking living in it.Son of Mathonwy wrote:You've seen Idiocracy, right?morepork wrote:It might be prudent to overhaul those checks and balances that are supposed to provide oversight for the executive branch of government, because this country is just about broken.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/p ... trump.html
"The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult.....he has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information and gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive."
'...the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him.'
First smart arse to call "fake news" gets a small pox milkshake. Enough is enough. Get him out of the way. Now.
-
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:10 pm
Re: Trump
Well his major talking points about corruption in DC, draining the swamp, Hillary being a despicable, lying piece of shit, tearing up the status quo etc. resonated with people for good reason.Son of Mathonwy wrote:In the name of sanity, surely this word cannot be here.Mikey Brown wrote:I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.Digby wrote:
Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.
People don’t care about details, they want big sweeping statements about fixing the things they hate. His MO of accusing everyone else of having all of his own deepest flaws worked well because he has no sense of shame or self awareness.
Obviously people have had a chance to see what a massive hypocrite he is since then, but I wouldn’t pin my hopes on that.
- Son of Mathonwy
- Posts: 4673
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm
Re: Trump
I know, it was slightly tongue-in-cheek. Although, you have to despair at the level of ignorance (or selfishness) that might lead someone to consider Trump inspirational. (Not that I'm claiming, even for a fraction of a second, that Clinton or Biden are inspirational either.)Mikey Brown wrote:Well his major talking points about corruption in DC, draining the swamp, Hillary being a despicable, lying piece of shit, tearing up the status quo etc. resonated with people for good reason.Son of Mathonwy wrote:In the name of sanity, surely this word cannot be here.Mikey Brown wrote:
I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.
People don’t care about details, they want big sweeping statements about fixing the things they hate. His MO of accusing everyone else of having all of his own deepest flaws worked well because he has no sense of shame or self awareness.
Obviously people have had a chance to see what a massive hypocrite he is since then, but I wouldn’t pin my hopes on that.
-
- Posts: 15261
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am
Re: Trump
I don't disagree there are a lot of whiny pissants, if they chose to align themselves with Trump's deplorables they'll only further confirm their own failings as human beingsMikey Brown wrote:I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.Digby wrote:Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.Mikey Brown wrote:
A lot of people feel a vote for Biden is another nail in the coffin of any hope to veer away from big money in politics. All these people are eating out of the same fucking trough.
.
-
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:10 pm
Re: Trump
I want to see these words on a campaign poster.Digby wrote:I don't disagree there are a lot of whiny pissants, if they chose to align themselves with Trump's deplorables they'll only further confirm their own failings as human beingsMikey Brown wrote:I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.Digby wrote:
Though when the alternative is Trump you can reasonably ask just how sodding stupid are these people? Clearly thick as shit, but someone might have a more eloquent take on just how retarded, precious and entitled these wankers actually are.
-
- Posts: 15261
- Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am
Re: Trump
It would hold if the alternative to Trump was George W Bush, or put another way those not voting for Biden test positively toward the negativeMikey Brown wrote:I want to see these words on a campaign poster.Digby wrote:I don't disagree there are a lot of whiny pissants, if they chose to align themselves with Trump's deplorables they'll only further confirm their own failings as human beingsMikey Brown wrote:
I don’t think if I were a citizen I could bring myself to not vote against Trump, but there’s generally a ton of people that are on the fence about voting at all. Trump inspires something in people, rightly or wrongly, so I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to be a big shock if he gets in again.
-
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:24 pm
Re: Trump
There is always people on the fence. The key in US is to energize your base, and possibly deenergize the opponents base. Comey reopening the email investigation on HRC took the wind off her supporters.
You see now how republicans want to make selectively difficult to vote ( urban and suburban areas only). That is to deenergize too.
Regarding the actual elections, I am reading how Trump won the vote by really few thousands votes in key counties of key swing states. The total is around 40 thousands. Those were the key votes.
Elections here are a science.
And if the “Sanders bros” think they are a party in itself and decide not to vote, well, it is their choice. I am familiar with the thinking. The Italian communist party in the 70’s had a similar thought regarding the economic crisis due to lack of fuel: the worse we do economically the better the chance we win in the long term; screw the short term*. My priorities will be different.
*: short term means 2-4 years here, it is not the Trump short term which is probably 2 hours or less.
You see now how republicans want to make selectively difficult to vote ( urban and suburban areas only). That is to deenergize too.
Regarding the actual elections, I am reading how Trump won the vote by really few thousands votes in key counties of key swing states. The total is around 40 thousands. Those were the key votes.
Elections here are a science.
And if the “Sanders bros” think they are a party in itself and decide not to vote, well, it is their choice. I am familiar with the thinking. The Italian communist party in the 70’s had a similar thought regarding the economic crisis due to lack of fuel: the worse we do economically the better the chance we win in the long term; screw the short term*. My priorities will be different.
*: short term means 2-4 years here, it is not the Trump short term which is probably 2 hours or less.