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Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:04 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
morepork wrote:Stom wrote:morepork wrote:
Where the fuck am I going to go? I am from a single parent family, with that parent living in Oz, I don't own any property back home (which is a total rip off property wise), and I would effectively put the handbrake on a career that would be extremely difficult to continue with in NZ. I don't want to go to Oz because they would probably deport me for an unpaid parking ticket from 1992 or something. I would also not be too happy with myself exercising such privilege when so many people are stuck in the shit here. I am definitely planning to retire somewhere that is not USandA, but that is a way off yet. The timeline could accelerate but...
No options elsewhere? What’s your exact field again? Don’t fancy Europe?
Of course there are options, but is it would be starting from scratch. I'm in the biomedical research field, which is very topical at the moment, but neither industry nor academia are really looking to splurge on new hires and expand their programs right at the present. I'm not that big a catch. There is a recession coming everywhere. Maybe NZ will get it's act together and finally legalise Cannabis and I can start growing medicinal weed on the West Coast of the South Island.
That's tough. We can all see the USA is steadily driving you insane.
I feel a hint of that here in England, but coping at the moment. If Scotland exits, however, the lock-in of Tory government might make me consider other options. No sure what though . . . I'd probably still stay to fight a hopeless fight (I used to support the Lib Dems, so I know all about that).
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:20 pm
by morepork
I'm not mental.
You are.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:38 pm
by morepork
"Herd mentality".
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:08 pm
by J Dory
Stom wrote:morepork wrote:Stom wrote:
No options elsewhere? What’s your exact field again? Don’t fancy Europe?
Of course there are options, but is it would be starting from scratch. I'm in the biomedical research field, which is very topical at the moment, but neither industry nor academia are really looking to splurge on new hires and expand their programs right at the present. I'm not that big a catch. There is a recession coming everywhere. Maybe NZ will get it's act together and finally legalise Cannabis and I can start growing medicinal weed on the West Coast of the South Island.
Why not just hop north of the border, then? They're definitely fully paid up members of the legalize movement... Did some work for a grow box company from Canada.
We're also putting plans in place for escaping the central European Trump. Problem is...there aren't actually many countries left in the world without idiotic leaders that aren't too bloody cold or on the other side of the bloody planet.
We don't want the US's covid riddled biomedical research refugees up here thank you very much.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:45 pm
by morepork
Ready the spare room Dory. I may be some time. I will need breakfast beer and I like my beef rare but not raw. What’s your WiFi password?
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:05 pm
by gransoporro
Puja wrote:
Covid 19 with go away very quickly with the vaccine, apparently, but also, "It would go away without the vaccine, George. With time it goes away and you’ll develop like a herd mentality. It’s gonna be herd developed, that’s gonna happen. It's herd mentality.”
Puja
Let’s talk about Biden’s dementia now. That is the real issue.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pm
by J Dory
morepork wrote:Ready the spare room Dory. I may be some time. I will need breakfast beer and I like my beef rare but not raw. What’s your WiFi password?
I've given up trying to make everyone happy when it comes to steak, it comes as it comes or cook it yer fckin self.
You'll be sharing a room with the dog, she's old and her breath smells like fish, but she is extremely affectionate and likes to surprise her roommates with wet kisses. WIFI password - spankme
Re: Trump
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:27 pm
by Mikey Brown
morepork wrote:Americans are conditioned to be terrified of any meaningful change that might benefit society as a whole. This pandemic has made it very clear that universal health care is needed in this country, for example, but anyone suggesting it gets shouted down as a raging rabid socialist, if not an actual (*gasp*) communist. Its pathetic but is a very difficult barrier to breach. The whole political landscape here is so socially conservative under the umbrella of "My Freedumb". It's like an evolutionary dead end. I don't know how many more old white men that stubbornly adhere to as low a tax rate as possible and no social safety net being the answer to all problems there can possibly be left.
I thought I'd share something a bit more cheery for a change. Cornel West is a fucking badass.
Maybe it even shows a glimmer of hope for communicating these ideas across the aisle. Carlson is a cretin and far beyond saving, but still.
And yes I'm aware of been bashing Biden for going on and on about decency, but that's because he's got a totally different definition of the word to Mr. West here.
Re: Trump
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:46 pm
by Puja
Mikey Brown wrote:morepork wrote:Americans are conditioned to be terrified of any meaningful change that might benefit society as a whole. This pandemic has made it very clear that universal health care is needed in this country, for example, but anyone suggesting it gets shouted down as a raging rabid socialist, if not an actual (*gasp*) communist. Its pathetic but is a very difficult barrier to breach. The whole political landscape here is so socially conservative under the umbrella of "My Freedumb". It's like an evolutionary dead end. I don't know how many more old white men that stubbornly adhere to as low a tax rate as possible and no social safety net being the answer to all problems there can possibly be left.
I thought I'd share something a bit more cheery for a change. Cornel West is a fucking badass.
Maybe it even shows a glimmer of hope for communicating these ideas across the aisle. Carlson is a cretin and far beyond saving, but still.
And yes I'm aware of been bashing Biden for going on and on about decency, but that's because he's got a totally different definition of the word to Mr. West here.
That's superb. From 2018 though, unfortunately, so it appears Carlson hasn't learned and has regressed back to his base understanding that Democratic Socialism means Venezuela and the dying days of the USSR.
Puja
Re: Trump
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:57 pm
by Mikey Brown
Ah bollocks.
I guess it’s back to reading about accusations of forced hysterectomies then. Never mind.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:04 am
by Digby
The untimely death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is unlikely to add any civility to the election. Whether the GOP want to go full on hypocritical (well, maybe fuller on) we'll have to wait and see, the early noises are not good
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:45 pm
by Puja
Digby wrote:The untimely death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is unlikely to add any civility to the election. Whether the GOP want to go full on hypocritical (well, maybe fuller on) we'll have to wait and see, the early noises are not good
The hope is that some of the moderates facing tough reelection races, like Collins and Murkowski, will see it as their own personal electoral suicide to vote to confirm a Republican judge this close to the election, which will prevent any nomination going through the Senate.
Puja
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:59 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote:Digby wrote:The untimely death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is unlikely to add any civility to the election. Whether the GOP want to go full on hypocritical (well, maybe fuller on) we'll have to wait and see, the early noises are not good
The hope is that some of the moderates facing tough reelection races, like Collins and Murkowski, will see it as their own personal electoral suicide to vote to confirm a Republican judge this close to the election, which will prevent any nomination going through the Senate.
Puja
Yep. Otherwise it's theocracy time.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:12 pm
by Which Tyler
What's the betting on Eric Trump being nominated?
Assuming Jared is too busy bringing peace to the Middle East
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:19 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Which Tyler wrote:What's the betting on Eric Trump being nominated?
Assuming Jared is too busy bringing peace to the Middle East
Has he read a law book at some point in his life? If so, then he's the man.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:29 pm
by WaspInWales
Son of Mathonwy wrote:Which Tyler wrote:What's the betting on Eric Trump being nominated?
Assuming Jared is too busy bringing peace to the Middle East
Has he read a law book at some point in his life? If so, then he's the man.
Not sure reading qualifies anyone to be nominated to or by the Trump administration. However Eric has said that he has watched an episode of Suits, so he's probably overqualified for the SCOTUS. Shame really as he would be a great pick!
Pick could be a typo though [emoji848]
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Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:59 pm
by morepork
Fuck. She is a big loss in this new-new civil rights period. A real shit kicker . All white male wealthy closet perverts will be lobbying harder than an erect pool boy to fill this. I hope McConnel spends eternity in hell getting buggered by a trans immigrant environmentalist wearing a cactus condom.
Watch all the church cunts get animated by this.
Only “developed “ nation in the world not to have paid maternity leave. Don’t expect that to change any time soon. Fuck these cunts.
Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:45 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
morepork wrote:Fuck. She is a big loss in this new-new civil rights period. A real shit kicker . All white male wealthy closet perverts will be lobbying harder than an erect pool boy to fill this. I hope McConnel spends eternity in hell getting buggered by a trans immigrant environmentalist wearing a cactus condom.
Watch all the church cunts get animated by this.
Only “developed “ nation in the world not to have paid maternity leave. Don’t expect that to change any time soon. Fuck these cunts.
A 6-3 lead for the right would be pretty scary.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:46 pm
by WaspInWales
Son of Mathonwy wrote:morepork wrote:Fuck. She is a big loss in this new-new civil rights period. A real shit kicker . All white male wealthy closet perverts will be lobbying harder than an erect pool boy to fill this. I hope McConnel spends eternity in hell getting buggered by a trans immigrant environmentalist wearing a cactus condom.
Watch all the church cunts get animated by this.
Only “developed “ nation in the world not to have paid maternity leave. Don’t expect that to change any time soon. Fuck these cunts.
A 6-3 lead for the right would be pretty scary.
Fourth Reich kinda scary tbh
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Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:37 am
by Digby
Trump is reported to be very concerned someone tried to send him some rice and has sought immediate confirmation he'll still be getting either cheeseburgers or steak and mash for dinner.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:42 am
by Mikey Brown
WaspInWales wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:morepork wrote:Fuck. She is a big loss in this new-new civil rights period. A real shit kicker . All white male wealthy closet perverts will be lobbying harder than an erect pool boy to fill this. I hope McConnel spends eternity in hell getting buggered by a trans immigrant environmentalist wearing a cactus condom.
Watch all the church cunts get animated by this.
Only “developed “ nation in the world not to have paid maternity leave. Don’t expect that to change any time soon. Fuck these cunts.
A 6-3 lead for the right would be pretty scary.
Fourth Reich kinda scary tbh
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Wasn’t there any opportunity for her to resign and to nominate someone else before Obama left? This situation can’t come as a surprise surely. It’s grim having to play the game that way but it is what it is.
Re: RE: Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:10 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Mikey Brown wrote:WaspInWales wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:
A 6-3 lead for the right would be pretty scary.
Fourth Reich kinda scary tbh
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Wasn’t there any opportunity for her to resign and to nominate someone else before Obama left? This situation can’t come as a surprise surely. It’s grim having to play the game that way but it is what it is.
Sure there was time, but serious planning for your own death can be a hard thing to get your head around, especially when Trump beating Clinton was inconceivable (for some).
Re: Trump
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:19 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
I guess looking ahead, Stephen Breyer is now the oldest justice at 82 (and on the left wing, a Clinton nominee), so should Trump get re-elected we'd better hope his health holds.
By the same token, if Biden wins we should hope Breyer does the sensible thing and resigns during Biden's term.
(NB I'm getting this from Wikipedia. I'd never heard of Breyer 10 minutes ago.
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Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:39 am
by Which Tyler
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ram ... aign-rally
Trump tells Trump supporters that they are genetically superior.
I seem to remember another far-right leader going down this path...
Oh, whilst I'm here:
2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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** “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
-- Mitch McConnell, March 2016
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:21 am
by Digby
You've a group in charge who think Americans are the ones who vote for them