RugbyRebels

Which Tyler wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ram ... aign-rally

Trump tells Trump supporters that they are genetically superior.
I seem to remember another far-right leader going down this path...



Oh, whilst I'm here:

2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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** “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
-- Mitch McConnell, March 2016

Sandydragon wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ram ... aign-rally

Trump tells Trump supporters that they are genetically superior.
I seem to remember another far-right leader going down this path...



Oh, whilst I'm here:

2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
________________________
** “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
-- Mitch McConnell, March 2016

Yeah, but, erm, hmmm

Puja wrote:And in news that comes as a gigantic surprise: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54319948

Biden needs to make hay with this come the debate IMO. So much of Trump's position is around him being a successful businessman and this is something that can really hurt him, both with his base and in his tiny baby feelings.

Puja

Digby wrote:Everyone being dug in is fine for Biden if people vote and their votes are counted. Whilst the non payment of tax story doesn't directly boost Biden it sure as shit doesn't encourage anyone looking for a reason to vote GOP/Trump because they cannot vote Democratic, they're either going to stay away or vote Libertarian

Stom wrote:

Digby wrote:Everyone being dug in is fine for Biden if people vote and their votes are counted. Whilst the non payment of tax story doesn't directly boost Biden it sure as shit doesn't encourage anyone looking for a reason to vote GOP/Trump because they cannot vote Democratic, they're either going to stay away or vote Libertarian

Well indeed. The idea is to hoover up all those "other" voters on the basis that Trump is terrible and if you don't vote Biden you'll get Trump.

I'm more and more coming around to the idea that the US is fucked and a new civil war is on its way, though. I mean, jesus. What an absolute mess of a country.

Stom wrote:

Digby wrote:Everyone being dug in is fine for Biden if people vote and their votes are counted. Whilst the non payment of tax story doesn't directly boost Biden it sure as shit doesn't encourage anyone looking for a reason to vote GOP/Trump because they cannot vote Democratic, they're either going to stay away or vote Libertarian

Well indeed. The idea is to hoover up all those "other" voters on the basis that Trump is terrible and if you don't vote Biden you'll get Trump.

I'm more and more coming around to the idea that the US is fucked and a new civil war is on its way, though. I mean, jesus. What an absolute mess of a country.

Mikey Brown wrote:Would it? I can't even tell in which direction you think it would be one sided?

Digby wrote:I guess for anyone who was worried Trump himself might be worried about looking presidential they can now consider those fears allayed. Wowzers

Puja wrote:

Digby wrote:I guess for anyone who was worried Trump himself might be worried about looking presidential they can now consider those fears allayed. Wowzers

I'm considering that a win for Biden overall. He basically needed to not utterly fuck up somewhere and confirm Trump's claims of senility, so that mess worked out perfectly for him.

Puja

paddy no 11 wrote:however bad biden is he's not threatening violence, actively engaging with neo fascist goups and threatening to steal an election

WaspInWales wrote:

paddy no 11 wrote:however bad biden is he's not threatening violence, actively engaging with neo fascist goups and threatening to steal an election

True but I still don't think Biden is the right pick for the Dems. Not now anyway.

Saunders would wipe the floor with him.

Harris would too.

Even Beto would.

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WaspInWales wrote:

paddy no 11 wrote:however bad biden is he's not threatening violence, actively engaging with neo fascist goups and threatening to steal an election

True but I still don't think Biden is the right pick for the Dems. Not now anyway.

Saunders would wipe the floor with him.

Harris would too.

Even Beto would.

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Stom wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

paddy no 11 wrote:however bad biden is he's not threatening violence, actively engaging with neo fascist goups and threatening to steal an election

True but I still don't think Biden is the right pick for the Dems. Not now anyway.

Saunders would wipe the floor with him.

Harris would too.

Even Beto would.

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Won't Harris get to debate Pence? That might be more interesting...

Puja wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

paddy no 11 wrote:however bad biden is he's not threatening violence, actively engaging with neo fascist goups and threatening to steal an election

True but I still don't think Biden is the right pick for the Dems. Not now anyway.

Saunders would wipe the floor with him.

Harris would too.

Even Beto would.

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Hard disagree. While I am no fan of Biden and I would rather have any of those names personally, I think he's the perfect pick for this election. The left wing will vote for him because Trump is so awful and Biden will attract a lot of the moderate Republicans who would otherwise pick Trump to save them from the socialists.

Puja