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Re: Trump

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:54 pm
by Puja
gransoporro wrote:A quick note on Pete Buttigieg.

People “in the know” ( that is, they may over claim their inside knowledge, but I know they are well informed in general) told me he is auditioning for Secretary of State. That is the cabinet seat he covets. But he may end up somewhere else: both he and “the power that be” think he needs a cabinet position to grow his political ambitions.

And that he is on Fox also to prepare for his next presidential run in 4 or 12 years. Yes, Biden, if elected, is not expected to seek a second term.
I think they're right on that - he's done extraordinarily well to get as high as he has on the back of being Mayor of South Bend, but he does need some relevant experience if he's going to be a sensible candidate going forward. He also needs to find some way to make himself attractive to black voters in the South, otherwise his next primary campaign is going to end the same way his first one did.

I won't be surprised if Biden doesn't seek a second term (gods willing that he's able to get the first) - he'll be 82 and the pressure of the job ages every President who're smart enough to understand it. I think Kamala will be in the box seat though as presumptive incumbent.

Puja

Re: Trump

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:01 pm
by paddy no 11
Will AOC let kamala have first dibs?

Re: Trump

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:05 pm
by cashead
gransoporro wrote:Biden, if elected, is not expected to seek a second term.
Dude’s old as dicks.

Honestly, the Korean method of 1 term and being suspicious of anyone running for office is probably the most correct in a Republic.

Re: Trump

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:27 pm
by Digby

Re: RE: Re: Trump

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:35 pm
by WaspInWales
Digby wrote:Because why wouldn't you?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... ri18n=true
Fucking hell.

That has to be a parody. It HAS to be!

This is the shit that I think is going to win the cunt a second term.

Nicely tied in with another SC appointment...

Some daft cunts will think, word for word "the guy is getting shit done!" [emoji848]

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Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:00 am
by Puja
paddy no 11 wrote:Will AOC let kamala have first dibs?
Would she be old enough in 2024? She'd turn 35 end of October 2024, so do you have to be 35 to run or 35 when the Presidency starts?

Puja

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:12 am
by Digby
Puja wrote:
gransoporro wrote:A quick note on Pete Buttigieg.

People “in the know” ( that is, they may over claim their inside knowledge, but I know they are well informed in general) told me he is auditioning for Secretary of State. That is the cabinet seat he covets. But he may end up somewhere else: both he and “the power that be” think he needs a cabinet position to grow his political ambitions.

And that he is on Fox also to prepare for his next presidential run in 4 or 12 years. Yes, Biden, if elected, is not expected to seek a second term.
I think they're right on that - he's done extraordinarily well to get as high as he has on the back of being Mayor of South Bend, but he does need some relevant experience if he's going to be a sensible candidate going forward. He also needs to find some way to make himself attractive to black voters in the South, otherwise his next primary campaign is going to end the same way his first one did.

I won't be surprised if Biden doesn't seek a second term (gods willing that he's able to get the first) - he'll be 82 and the pressure of the job ages every President who're smart enough to understand it. I think Kamala will be in the box seat though as presumptive incumbent.

Puja

Secretary of State would be good for raising his profile. Of course if he actually wanted to help people he might consider HHS, HUD, Treasury, Education.... though some of the options that might help people would prove much trickier

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:16 am
by Which Tyler
Trump says militia that sought to kidnap and kill Michigan’s Gov. Whitmer was ‘maybe a problem, maybe it wasn’t’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump- ... -it-wasnt/

In a startling moment during his Michigan rally Tuesday, President Donald Trump implied that the militia that attempted to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was maybe or maybe not all that big of a problem.

“People are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn’t,” Trump told his rally.

It’s a commonly used tactic by Trump to say things like “people say” or “some say” or raise hypotheticals so that it gives him the ability to say “I don’t think that, people do.” But he has never been able to cite the actual person that said that to him.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:46 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Which Tyler wrote:Trump says militia that sought to kidnap and kill Michigan’s Gov. Whitmer was ‘maybe a problem, maybe it wasn’t’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump- ... -it-wasnt/

In a startling moment during his Michigan rally Tuesday, President Donald Trump implied that the militia that attempted to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was maybe or maybe not all that big of a problem.

“People are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn’t,” Trump told his rally.

It’s a commonly used tactic by Trump to say things like “people say” or “some say” or raise hypotheticals so that it gives him the ability to say “I don’t think that, people do.” But he has never been able to cite the actual person that said that to him.
He's not really bothering with the dog whistle. Any whistle will do.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:48 am
by Sandydragon
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:Trump says militia that sought to kidnap and kill Michigan’s Gov. Whitmer was ‘maybe a problem, maybe it wasn’t’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump- ... -it-wasnt/

In a startling moment during his Michigan rally Tuesday, President Donald Trump implied that the militia that attempted to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was maybe or maybe not all that big of a problem.

“People are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn’t,” Trump told his rally.

It’s a commonly used tactic by Trump to say things like “people say” or “some say” or raise hypotheticals so that it gives him the ability to say “I don’t think that, people do.” But he has never been able to cite the actual person that said that to him.
He's not really bothering with the dog whistle. Any whistle will do.
Provided it’s connected to a megaphone.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:16 am
by Mikey Brown
Jesus Christ. Kamala 2024 with Bittigieg as VP is the dream for progress. I can see why people just want to sit this thing out.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:48 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:Trump says militia that sought to kidnap and kill Michigan’s Gov. Whitmer was ‘maybe a problem, maybe it wasn’t’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump- ... -it-wasnt/

In a startling moment during his Michigan rally Tuesday, President Donald Trump implied that the militia that attempted to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was maybe or maybe not all that big of a problem.

“People are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn’t,” Trump told his rally.

It’s a commonly used tactic by Trump to say things like “people say” or “some say” or raise hypotheticals so that it gives him the ability to say “I don’t think that, people do.” But he has never been able to cite the actual person that said that to him.
He's not really bothering with the dog whistle. Any whistle will do.
Provided it’s connected to a megaphone.
Yeah, whistle does sound a bit weak. Air horn politics?

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:52 am
by Digby
Mikey Brown wrote:Jesus Christ. Kamala 2024 with Bittigieg as VP is the dream for progress. I can see why people just want to sit this thing out.
If that's their conclusion one hopes only they have the good grace not to complain about Trump

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:35 pm
by Sandydragon
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote: He's not really bothering with the dog whistle. Any whistle will do.
Provided it’s connected to a megaphone.
Yeah, whistle does sound a bit weak. Air horn politics?
Only if it plays Dixie!

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:31 pm
by Puja
Digby wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:Jesus Christ. Kamala 2024 with Bittigieg as VP is the dream for progress. I can see why people just want to sit this thing out.
If that's their conclusion one hopes only they have the good grace not to complain about Trump
Indeed. I can sort of see the logic behind not wanting to reward the party for putting up another Republican-in-a-blue-tie and hoping another humbling will grant a progressive candidate (not that Harris is actually that progressive, but I digress), but the number of deaths that Trump will cause with another 4 years (not just COVID, but climate, asylum, healthcare, abortion, right-wing terrorism, you name it) surely revokes any ability to claim that you're on the side of good.

I can understand having problems with Biden, cause there's a lot of them to have. But I don't think you can let perfect be the enemy of not-actively-a-facist in this election. Fight to evict Trump now and then keep campaigning for progressivism.

Puja

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:41 pm
by morepork
But what about my taxes you lib snowflakes?

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:51 pm
by morepork



Biggest most credible story. In the world.


Could think of a couple bigger, if pressed.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:05 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
morepork wrote:


Biggest most credible story. In the world.


Could think of a couple bigger, if pressed.
He's stupid, but not so stupid to believe anything he wrote there. The lies just pour out.

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:07 pm
by morepork
He is prrrrretty fucking stupid...

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:14 pm
by Puja

Re: Trump

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:24 pm
by morepork
It's difficult to know where to begin with that. Maybe the hugging and kissing?

He doe fuck all "negotiating" and in fact spends most of his time sitting in a chair with a perplexed look on his face like a toddler wot has shat itself in a sandpit.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:11 am
by Digby
Outstanding work from Fox News claiming they received confidential documents from a source pertaining to Hunter Biden in their NY office, damning documents. Then without taking any copies of said documents they shipped them from their NY office to a location in LA where one Tucker Carlson was waiting with baited [sic] breath (I say that rather than bated as the bait would surely add to the rancid odour) but shock horror, the documents never arrived. Somehow the Deep State gleaned knowledge of the shipping of this particular envelope and intercepted to remove the documents but leave the packaging.

You know this story is true because a man as honest as Tucker went live to air with the news there really were damning documents about Hunter, just there was nothing to actually show anyone, that they didn't take copies, and presumably the Deep State has already offed the source who supplied the really genuine most truest documents ever so they couldn't receive them again.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:07 am
by Sandydragon
And if some mentalist militiaman deciders that the deep state has gone too far and does something violent, presumably that’s just too bad?

Something is badly wrong when a mainstream media outlet can make unsubstantiated claims like this without recourse.

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:20 am
by Digby
They presumably have the empty envelope, what more proof would you need?

Re: Trump

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:49 am
by Which Tyler
Sandydragon wrote:And if some mentalist militiaman deciders that the deep state has gone too far and does something violent, presumably that’s just too bad?
I refer the honourable gentleman to the comment I made some moments ago.

‘maybe a problem, maybe it wasn’t’