Page 290 of 308

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:03 pm
by Which Tyler

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:07 pm
by fivepointer
The odious creep will doubtless hang around for a bit like a bad smell but the relief of having a grown up in charge of the USA is something to cheer.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:19 pm
by WaspInWales
Get in Biden!!!

Get the fuck out Trump!!!

Never been more happy to be wrong :D

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:20 pm
by Galfon
He's off playing golf at the moment - wonder if he knows yet ? :?

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:23 pm
by Which Tyler
fivepointer wrote:The odious creep will doubtless hang around for a bit like a bad smell but the relief of having a grown up in charge of the USA is something to cheer.
Hanging around ala his mate Epstein?


I just toasted Trump (and other authoritarian populist cockwombles) with Tequila, Ali did with Talisker - the most unpalatable drinks in existence for us.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:32 pm
by Digby
Puja wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.
The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja
For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:46 pm
by morepork
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Turns out the armed Viginia QAnon wierdos that were busted outside the convention centre were attempting to plant fake ballots. Good plan guys.

Outside convention the centre last nigh:

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/lo ... a/2588019/

The trump supporters....

Streets are filling up with some very happy and relieved people. God almighty what a dog shit of a term it has been.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:50 pm
by Sandydragon
Puja wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.
The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja
That’s a good point. I think many of the republicans will be washing their hands of Trump very quickly.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:52 pm
by Sandydragon
Digby wrote:
Puja wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.
The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja
None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:55 pm
by Which Tyler
Next week's #1?

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:57 pm
by Donny osmond
Well played 'Murica. Years too late, as per, but still, got there in the end.

Sent from my CPH1951 using Tapatalk

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:08 pm
by Digby
Fair play to Donny it's hard to become President, and hard too not to win your election as President, and he managed to not win re-election quite easily no matter the historic odds against him

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:13 pm
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
Puja wrote:
The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja
For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone
None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

Good news if true, with no permanent civil service this is actually quite important, and for all the talk of phone lines being cut and missing buttons from computer keyboards it's all the handover of data which is the priority, and being respectful of the incoming executive and trying if possible not to commit them to various acts

In a good number of handovers the various aides become long-lasting friends even allowing for the pain the outgoing administration feel.

Of course it's possible this administration will have less to handover because of serial incompetence and laziness over the years, and will instead spend time trying to hide their crimes and stir up trouble.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:59 pm
by Sandydragon
I’m expecting som large scale Blancco orders to land in the White House plus a few additional shredders.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:07 pm
by morepork

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:17 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone
None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

Good news if true, with no permanent civil service this is actually quite important, and for all the talk of phone lines being cut and missing buttons from computer keyboards it's all the handover of data which is the priority, and being respectful of the incoming executive and trying if possible not to commit them to various acts

In a good number of handovers the various aides become long-lasting friends even allowing for the pain the outgoing administration feel.

Of course it's possible this administration will have less to handover because of serial incompetence and laziness over the years, and will instead spend time trying to hide their crimes and stir up trouble.
Mary Trump was concerned about the damage this vindictive, narcissistic shit could do before he steps down. And I agree.

(Aside for SF fans :) - this situation reminds me of the start of Dune, when the Atreides take over from the Harkonnens and have to turn everything upside down searching for booby traps.)

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:56 pm
by Zhivago
Funny that they talk about law now. They didn't seem to have much regard for it for the last 4 years.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:53 pm
by Puja
Son of Mathonwy wrote:(Aside for SF fans :) - this situation reminds me of the start of Dune, when the Atreides take over from the Harkonnens and have to turn everything upside down searching for booby traps.)
Hah! I like that reference. He's not competent enough to build a death trap, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't break things out of petty spite.

Puja

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:54 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:(Aside for SF fans :) - this situation reminds me of the start of Dune, when the Atreides take over from the Harkonnens and have to turn everything upside down searching for booby traps.)
Hah! I like that reference. He's not competent enough to build a death trap, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't break things out of petty spite.

Puja
Now that I think about it, he does resemble Baron Harkonnen in several ways.

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:33 pm
by paddy no 11
Joe and kamala not big bojo fans

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:24 pm
by Digby
Perhaps not, but it's still an important social, security and economic relationship and they'll respect that. And beyond global trading standards will be driven by China, the USA and the EU and the USA will be keen to add momentum to their world view taking precedence so they are long term and short term gains to be had there, and (very luckily for Boris) we're hosting COP26 next year which gives both countries a strong beginning to build on to try and joint platform where we can and from that and the security we can or should be able to move forward. These things are never easy, diplomacy and deal making being harder than throwing your toys out of the pram, but we don't at least start with nothing to talk about. And you never know, Blair and Bush anticipated they'd never like each other, and that worked out just fine!

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:36 pm
by morepork
Man, the relief in the air upon hearing adult leaders speak last night was palpable. But enough of that.

The Trump team had a press conference yesterday that was originally said to take place at the Four Seasons hotel in Philly. This was corrected to clarify that it was Four Seasons Total Landscaping, a business in North Philly. You couldn't script better satire.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... rence.html




Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:08 pm
by Which Tyler

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:48 pm
by Digby
How many candidates have lost the popular vote twice? That must be some rarified company

Re: Trump

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:56 pm
by Which Tyler
Digby wrote:How many candidates have lost the popular vote twice? That must be some rarified company
3
That'd be the single term presidents who lost the popular vote (given how rare it is to win an election whilst losing the popular vote).

Mond, there must be some who ran twice, lost twice