RugbyRebels

Lizard wrote:

rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week!

Back yer truck up mate.

What happened to your theory that he was actor in a preordained fix?

Which part of flabbergasted didn't you understand?

Like a lot of other people I just never took Trump seriously. A little of my faith in American democracy has been restored. I congratulate the people of the US for electing the lesser of two evils.

Lizard wrote:

rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week!

Back yer truck up mate.

What happened to your theory that he was actor in a preordained fix?

A new theory will be along momentarily*.







*Yes, I meant momentarily in the American sense ie shortly

Digby wrote:

Spy wrote:

Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.

Trump will have a friendly Senate and House to work with. He should be able to build what he wants without the compromises that Obama had to work with. It'll be interesting to see how he handles health care, amongst other things. He's going to be able to make stuff happen.

On the face of it yes. But whilst Trump is likely to be more popular to them than Obama it's not as though all Republicans can stand the man, so we might see a split between those who can't abide him and those who'll tolerate Trump as best they can.

To a certain extent, sure. However, I think a lot of the animosity shown by Republicans towards Trump was because they thought he couldn't win. Pretty sure we're going to see quite the shift in sentiment now he's got them back on top.

Isn't he going to court next month for suspected rape of a 13yo? And then for Fraud after that? Home D at the Whitehouse for teh lulz.

Fuck having a cunt like that being the face of my country. Hes like a Sims character with all the cheats enabled, although hes a sack of shit hes somehow become president.

rowan wrote:

Lizard wrote:

rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week!

Back yer truck up mate.

What happened to your theory that he was actor in a preordained fix?

Which part of flabbergasted didn't you understand?

Like a lot of other people I just never took Trump seriously. A little of my faith in American democracy has been restored. I congratulate the people of the US for electing the lesser of two evils.

And what do you make of the vehicle hes used to win this election? His 'wall' carry on and vile comments about hispanics? I'm all for anti establishment but I draw a line when it comes to targeting minorities. Its exactly the same as Brexit. I have no problem with it but the way they have drawn votes disgusts me.

rowan wrote:

Lizard wrote:

rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week!

Back yer truck up mate.

What happened to your theory that he was actor in a preordained fix?

Which part of flabbergasted didn't you understand?

Like a lot of other people I just never took Trump seriously. A little of my faith in American democracy has been restored. I congratulate the people of the US for electing the lesser of two evils.

Your theory was that Trump wouldn't win, because he couldn't, because it was a set up.

So you kind of need to admit that all of that was wrong.

There is no shadowy elite controlling all. Just a bunch of fuckwits, fuckwitting as hard they can until some bigger fuckwit comes along.

Lizard wrote: Just a bunch of fuckwits, fuckwitting as hard they can until some bigger fuckwit comes along.

In that there is at least a challenge, from Bush, to Palin to Trump, how does one up the ante again?

It wasn't much of a choice, was it? But who knows what will happen. Obama campaigned on an anti-war ticket, picked up a Nobel Prize for it, and then proceeded to bomb 7 countries.


There is no shadowy elite controlling all.

A lot of people got a lot of things wrong about this election. I was one of them. Trump's policies appeared so bizarre to me that I just wrote him off as a serious politician, which was my mistake, evidently, but on the foreign policy issue Clinton appeared the far more dangerous of the two.

So I congratulate the American people on their choice today. Democracy is alive in the US afterall, even if it effectively came down to choosing the lesser of two evils.

Len wrote:Isn't he going to court next month for suspected rape of a 13yo? And then for Fraud after that? Home D at the Whitehouse for teh lulz.

Fuck having a cunt like that being the face of my country. Hes like a Sims character with all the cheats enabled, although hes a sack of shit hes somehow become president.

I think the rape one was a civil case, not that I'm trying to split hairs or anything.

Digby wrote:

Lizard wrote: Just a bunch of fuckwits, fuckwitting as hard they can until some bigger fuckwit comes along.

In that there is at least a challenge, from Bush, to Palin to Trump, how does one up the ante again?

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Seems a lot of Americans don't like having healthcare.

Or an education. Bernie where art thou? Young people have stayed away in droves.

I haven't been following this word for word - too depressing - but is that right because last I heard turnout was up. If it is right, then they've got no one but themselves to blame when they see the consequences.

Indeed.

I suspect President Trump will be spending the first few months of his administration undoing much of what Obama did manage to achieve. Obamacare must be toast. As for gun control, oh well.

People used to reserve their protest votes for elections that don't really matter.

2016 was the year that all changed.

jared_7 wrote:

Digby wrote:

Lizard wrote: Just a bunch of fuckwits, fuckwitting as hard they can until some bigger fuckwit comes along.

In that there is at least a challenge, from Bush, to Palin to Trump, how does one up the ante again?

Is that Kanye?

Like most white people these days I have an album by Kanye, but I can't say I'm that familiar with him.

Digby wrote:

jared_7 wrote:

Digby wrote:
In that there is at least a challenge, from Bush, to Palin to Trump, how does one up the ante again?

I have an album by Kanye.

The seismic shocks keep on rolling in.

Digby wrote:

Is that Kanye?[/quote]
I will don't know who you 2 are talking about. Am I missing something obvious?

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:
I have an album by Kanye.

The seismic shocks keep on rolling in.

Not only that but I think I've even listened to it as recently as 2009

Len wrote:Isn't he going to court next month for suspected rape of a 13yo? And then for Fraud after that? Home D at the Whitehouse for teh lulz.

Fuck having a cunt like that being the face of my country. Hes like a Sims character with all the cheats enabled, although hes a sack of shit hes somehow become president.

The rape case has been settled out of court. No idea what will happen now with the other one.

This is a new low. Having trouble processing this.

Trump only had a chance of becoming president as he was up against Clinton, of course on the flip side I thought Clinton only had a chance to be president as she was up against Trump, but in the end she didn't even come close to winning the electoral college, though she may actually get the popular vote.

When I say "popular"!!!

J Dory wrote:I'm picking a comfortable win for Hillary, democrats sneaking the senate, and republicans holding on to the house.

One of those predictions that gets funnier with each viewing.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

J Dory wrote:I'm picking a comfortable win for Hillary, democrats sneaking the senate, and republicans holding on to the house.

One of those predictions that gets funnier with each viewing.

One out of three, could be worse.

J Dory wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

J Dory wrote:I'm picking a comfortable win for Hillary, democrats sneaking the senate, and republicans holding on to the house.

One of those predictions that gets funnier with each viewing.

One out of three, could be worse.

Fair play.

rowan wrote:Ireland beats the All Blacks, Trump wins the election . . . What's going on in this world? Twice I've been pleasantly flabbergasted this week!

It was fab beating the mighty All Blacks.

Couldn't give a shyte about the election. Won't make a difference to the average Seppo pleb either.

For me, the real pleasure was watching liberals and feminists across d'interwebs become apoplectic as the results rolled in.

All hail the Trump!

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

morepork wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Seems a lot of Americans don't like having healthcare.

Or an education. Bernie where art thou? Young people have stayed away in droves.

I haven't been following this word for word - too depressing - but is that right because last I heard turnout was up. If it is right, then they've got no one but themselves to blame when they see the consequences.

I don't quite agree with the "no one but themselves to blame" sentiment. I wonder if a lot of young people in America simply decided that they couldn't bring themselves to vote for the status quo. The Republicans have the house again so Hillary wouldn't have been able to change much even if she had wanted to. If I was a Sanders fan, and a lot of the younger generation seem to have been a supporter I would probably have chosen to Vote for Hillary. However I can understand the sentiment that having Trump in the chair is a form of change at least. If nothing else if Trump enacts some of his ideas it will focus the need for change in America in a way that a Vote for Clinton couldn't for these people.

cashead wrote:

Coco wrote:Eugene, we want healthcare, just not the healthcare we have now.. It really needs some fine tuning.

Ah, so you're going with the timetested "throw the baby out with the bathwater and then burn the house down with lava" approach.

Say what?