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Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:23 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote:
Banquo wrote:
FKAS wrote:
A couple of dim penalties. He's such a beast though, so explosive a little polish could bring out a real diamond.
One of which was harsh. Both the sort of marginal stuff you’d expect from his style. I think he’s pretty smart already frankly. His technique and decision making are very decent imo
I was thinking particularly of the one from the first lineout where he is the second man in a big hit on Hughes. Text book defence, very good. Then clearly never releases and turns slow ball on half way into a lineout in his own 22. Inexcusably stupid and if he does that against Exeter it'll be 7 points. A little more experience and he leaves the ball, reloads and then is ready to smash the next ball carrier, opposition go nowhere and kick. Just a little polish and he could step up another level and be an international player for a decade.
I thought he did release actually. Taylor was the tackler and Willis only assisted and let go. That was the call that was imo harsh.
Plus you can’t play the way he does without conceding the odd penalty.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:23 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote:
padprop wrote:
FKAS wrote:
Big and average. He works hard but I imagine he's seen as a short term stop gap at international level. At 29 he's not really one for the future and Wales are short on locks. He was never going to get near England contention.
Still, I’d have him over Ball and Beard
Stroll into Tigers :)
Doesn't matter who you out into the Tigers side at the minute. Tactics and systems are at best half finished.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:24 pm
by Peej
Definitely can't stop playing, and need to keep up breakdown pressure to cut down on Radradra' s time and space further out.

Rowlands consistently one of Wasps best players

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:24 pm
by Mellsblue
I didn’t know Cips is in a soft rock band.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:25 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote:
FKAS wrote:
Banquo wrote: One of which was harsh. Both the sort of marginal stuff you’d expect from his style. I think he’s pretty smart already frankly. His technique and decision making are very decent imo
I was thinking particularly of the one from the first lineout where he is the second man in a big hit on Hughes. Text book defence, very good. Then clearly never releases and turns slow ball on half way into a lineout in his own 22. Inexcusably stupid and if he does that against Exeter it'll be 7 points. A little more experience and he leaves the ball, reloads and then is ready to smash the next ball carrier, opposition go nowhere and kick. Just a little polish and he could step up another level and be an international player for a decade.
I thought he did release actually.
One arm on the body at all times for me. If you're the second man in the tackle you've got to show the ref both hands before you compete. It's been that way for years it's not something new in the interpretations.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:25 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote:
Banquo wrote:
padprop wrote:
Still, I’d have him over Ball and Beard
Stroll into Tigers :)
Doesn't matter who you out into the Tigers side at the minute. Tactics and systems are at best half finished.
Got a bite at least :lol: :lol:

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:26 pm
by Raggs
FKAS wrote:
Banquo wrote:
FKAS wrote:
A couple of dim penalties. He's such a beast though, so explosive a little polish could bring out a real diamond.
One of which was harsh. Both the sort of marginal stuff you’d expect from his style. I think he’s pretty smart already frankly. His technique and decision making are very decent imo
I was thinking particularly of the one from the first lineout where he is the second man in a big hit on Hughes. Text book defence, very good. Then clearly never releases and turns slow ball on half way into a lineout in his own 22. Inexcusably stupid and if he does that against Exeter it'll be 7 points. A little more experience and he leaves the ball, reloads and then is ready to smash the next ball carrier, opposition go nowhere and kick. Just a little polish and he could step up another level and be an international player for a decade.
There's plenty of refs that would have let him have that though. In fact, I'd reckon that Nigel Owens would have let him have it, since he came away with the ball, and that tends to be what he's ahppy with.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:27 pm
by Mikey Brown
Mellsblue wrote:I didn’t know Cips is in a soft rock band.
Finally managed to tune in and that's what I got. He really doesn't sound comfortable. Can't tell if he's just bored or is reading off a script or something.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:28 pm
by Banquo
FKAS wrote:
Banquo wrote:
FKAS wrote:
I was thinking particularly of the one from the first lineout where he is the second man in a big hit on Hughes. Text book defence, very good. Then clearly never releases and turns slow ball on half way into a lineout in his own 22. Inexcusably stupid and if he does that against Exeter it'll be 7 points. A little more experience and he leaves the ball, reloads and then is ready to smash the next ball carrier, opposition go nowhere and kick. Just a little polish and he could step up another level and be an international player for a decade.
I thought he did release actually.
One arm on the body at all times for me. If you're the second man in the tackle you've got to show the ref both hands before you compete. It's been that way for years it's not something new in the interpretations.
Thanks for the heads up, I’m so much better informed. We disagree at what happened, not the interpretation. Crack on. He remains a very good player, and I agree can improve- though most agree he’s been easily the most influential player since the restart.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:30 pm
by padprop
Parisse literally did what Willis did but more deliberately when Toulon played Leicester and it led to a try. Refs are still very hit and miss on it so I don’t blame Willis for having a go. As said previously, it could have been given either way regardless on what the rules are.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:33 pm
by Banquo
Booj having a hard time there.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:34 pm
by Banquo
padprop wrote:Parisse literally did what Willis did but more deliberately when Toulon played Leicester and it led to a try. Refs are still very hit and miss on it so I don’t blame Willis for having a go. As said previously, it could have been given either way regardless on what the rules are.
That’s what I thought too.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:34 pm
by Peej
Yeah, properly exposed. He's just a yard too slow for 13 I think

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:35 pm
by Mikey Brown
Ah, Sheedy just too slow to make a move there once he got through the line.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:35 pm
by padprop
Yeah, Booj is lacking a step

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by Banquo
More genius from Willis

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by padprop
You can say what you want about skillset, having a complete game etc, but no 9 in the premiership is as influential as Robson

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by Peej
Jesus, Bristol absolutely firing this half

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:39 pm
by twitchy
Insane from willis.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:40 pm
by FKAS
Banquo wrote:More genius from Willis
What a try saver.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:40 pm
by padprop
Is Earl playing?

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:40 pm
by Banquo
Peej wrote:Yeah, properly exposed. He's just a yard too slow for 13 I think
Both pace and positioning (esp) are issues- it’s a bloody good pair he’s up against, and having the less than pacy Gopperth inside can’t help.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:41 pm
by Banquo
padprop wrote:Is Earl playing?
Indeed.

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:41 pm
by Mikey Brown
padprop wrote:You can say what you want about skillset, having a complete game etc, but no 9 in the premiership is as influential as Robson
But is there a vacancy for England there or is the being a box-kick robot the only way in?

Re: Wasps v Bristol, semi final - 1.30pm Saturday

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:43 pm
by Raggs
How often does a side get called for collapsing when they're running the opponent backwards?