Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:39 am
by UGagain
Peat wrote:Ok, wow. That was pretty special. No, it's just another form of racism, and your casual dismissal of it shows why it's thriving nicely in the Labour party at present.
edit: And no, anti-semitism and anti-Israel are different things.
I didn't dismiss antisemitism. I dismissed your claim of it.
There's f all antisemitism on the left. There is nowhere near enough opposition on the left to, and too much tolerance of, the racist ideology of zionism. And far too much running away when the blowhards use the 'antisemitism' card.
It usually means the target isn't sufficiently islamophobic for the lobby's taste.
When 70% or more of the Tory MPs and 50% of the Labour MPs are Friends of Israel, I don't think you have an antisemitism problem.
I think you have a zionist 5th column.
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:05 am
by caldeyrfc
Peat wrote:Those who "merely wanted to vote for authority figures" helped cost Labour the last election. I'd suggest that makes them a constituency that Labour need to win the next General Election.
Not that I particularly identify with that constituency, and certainly not a constituency of Telegraph-reading Tories. If Labour's doesn't need to appeal me, I wish they'd stop emailing me asking me to campaign for them.
And the Labour party isn't the British electorate. His popularity sank and sank with the latter until the Tories took over the news with their own brand of mayhem. He's given me no reason to believe he won't resume the downwards trend should the Tories regain competence. Although it's not like he isn't losing people within the Labour party. Sure, he's gaining more than he loses, but he couldn't afford any losses to begin with.
Caldey - There's been a load of media about a rise of anti-semitism in the Labour party in the last couple of weeks due to a couple of expulsions and a guy leaving one of the Student unions due to the number of anti-semitic people there.
Heard nothing about ISIL supporting though.
Why do people equate to criticising Israel's policy towards the Palestinians with anti Semitism they are 2 different things
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:53 pm
by Peat
caldeyrfc wrote:Why do people equate to criticising Israel's policy towards the Palestinians with anti Semitism they are 2 different things
Yes they are.
But some people disguise the latter with the former, or overlook the latter because of the former.
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:15 pm
by gthedog
caldeyrfc wrote:
gthedog wrote:Unfortunately loads of ISIL supporting Jew hating people are creeping into Labour now and that's never going to attract any voters
Fvcking hell I hope you have proof to back that up
Go do some reading about some of Sadiq Khan's friends
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:22 pm
by caldeyrfc
gthedog wrote:
caldeyrfc wrote:
gthedog wrote:Unfortunately loads of ISIL supporting Jew hating people are creeping into Labour now and that's never going to attract any voters
Fvcking hell I hope you have proof to back that up
Go do some reading about some of Sadiq Khan's friends
A link would be helpful and can you make that a bona fide link and not your usual biased crap
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:45 am
by UGagain
caldeyrfc wrote:
gthedog wrote:
caldeyrfc wrote:
Fvcking hell I hope you have proof to back that up
Go do some reading about some of Sadiq Khan's friends
A link would be helpful and can you make that a bona fide link and not your usual biased crap
It's a load of pathetic smearing by (tenuous) association.
G likes overt war criminals like Cameron providing they're white anglo types but gets upset at muslims for speaking at peace conferences.
As I said earlier the test now for 'antisemitism' is whether you are sufficiently islamophobic to satisfy the warmongers, the zionist lobby and the sort of mouth breathers that read the Mail, like G.
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:10 am
by UGagain
Peat wrote:
caldeyrfc wrote:Why do people equate to criticising Israel's policy towards the Palestinians with anti Semitism they are 2 different things
Yes they are.
But some people disguise the latter with the former, or overlook the latter because of the former.
Some people try to smear all anti-zionists with the antisemitism tag with the sort of rubbish you're spouting here.
Like you've done with Corbyn in fact.
Anti-semitism is a largely right wing Christian thing.
It's barely a thing even now when compared to the islamophobia being actively promoted in the west.
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:02 am
by gthedog
UGagain wrote:
caldeyrfc wrote:
gthedog wrote:
Go do some reading about some of Sadiq Khan's friends
A link would be helpful and can you make that a bona fide link and not your usual biased crap
It's a load of pathetic smearing by (tenuous) association.
G likes overt war criminals like Cameron providing they're white anglo types but gets upset at muslims for speaking at peace conferences.
As I said earlier the test now for 'antisemitism' is whether you are sufficiently islamophobic to satisfy the warmongers, the zionist lobby and the sort of mouth breathers that read the Mail, like G.
Absolute kin rubbish. He's close friends with Isis followers, preachers of hate etc. Denial after the event is all well and good but the religion of peace is anything but
G likes overt war criminals like Cameron providing they're white anglo types but gets upset at muslims for speaking at peace conferences.
As I said earlier the test now for 'antisemitism' is whether you are sufficiently islamophobic to satisfy the warmongers, the zionist lobby and the sort of mouth breathers that read the Mail, like G.
Absolute kin rubbish. He's close friends with Isis followers, preachers of hate etc. Denial after the event is all well and good but the religion of peace is anything but
G likes overt war criminals like Cameron providing they're white anglo types but gets upset at muslims for speaking at peace conferences.
As I said earlier the test now for 'antisemitism' is whether you are sufficiently islamophobic to satisfy the warmongers, the zionist lobby and the sort of mouth breathers that read the Mail, like G.
Absolute kin rubbish. He's close friends with Isis followers, preachers of hate etc. Denial after the event is all well and good but the religion of peace is anything but
Crikey how do those straws feel that you are grasping at?!?
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:18 pm
by morepork
Nice.
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:04 pm
by caldeyrfc
You have to feel a bit of sympathy for G, he has craved a Tory Government for years and within less than a year of forming one it's all falling to bits. Hence the attacks on Corbyn with such tenuous links even the Sunday Sport wouldn't print them
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:12 pm
by gthedog
caldeyrfc wrote:You have to feel a bit of sympathy for G, he has craved a Tory Government for years and within less than a year of forming one it's all falling to bits. Hence the attacks on Corbyn with such tenuous links even the Sunday Sport wouldn't print them
Corbyn's the best thing for the tories for years.
Cameron and Osborne are however done and even more so once we vote out of the EU
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:34 pm
by morepork
Who is the next pig puhquer off the Tory rank?
Re: Corbyn: Doing ok for a student union debater or a potential PM?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:53 pm
by UGagain
gthedog wrote:
UGagain wrote:
caldeyrfc wrote:
A link would be helpful and can you make that a bona fide link and not your usual biased crap
It's a load of pathetic smearing by (tenuous) association.
G likes overt war criminals like Cameron providing they're white anglo types but gets upset at muslims for speaking at peace conferences.
As I said earlier the test now for 'antisemitism' is whether you are sufficiently islamophobic to satisfy the warmongers, the zionist lobby and the sort of mouth breathers that read the Mail, like G.
Absolute kin rubbish. He's close friends with Isis followers, preachers of hate etc. Denial after the event is all well and good but the religion of peace is anything but