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Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:

morepork wrote:How many generations in Europe will have to put up with this toxic testosterone fueled duck waving? All this pseudo academic analysis of military readiness and history just to accommodate another stupid fucking white man (Ghost Dog reference). Are we evolving or stuck in the mud of the primordial ooze?

It turns out that the 'Ukrainian special forces' regiment that were teaching that sweet old grey-haired Granny how to use an AK47 are actually Neo-Nazis. That wasn't mentioned 2 days ago.

Azov Battalion? Yeah, they're a bunch of nutcases. But they aren't representative of the Ukrainian armed forces (or political scene) as a whole, they are merely a hangover from the 2014 chaos. Clearly the Ukrainian government is slowly sidelining them, giving them harmless tasks like training old grannies.

You should bear in mind that the latest Ukrainian parliamentary elections only saw one far-right party represented, Svoboda, and they got only 1 seat out of 450.

But don't let the reality get in the way of your urge to parrot Kremlin propaganda.

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:
It turns out that the 'Ukrainian special forces' regiment that were teaching that sweet old grey-haired Granny how to use an AK47 are actually Neo-Nazis. That wasn't mentioned 2 days ago.

Azov Battalion? Yeah, they're a bunch of nutcases. But they aren't representative of the Ukrainian armed forces (or political scene) as a whole, they are merely a hangover from the 2014 chaos. Clearly the Ukrainian government is slowly sidelining them, giving them harmless tasks like training old grannies.

You should bear in mind that the latest Ukrainian parliamentary elections only saw one far-right party represented, Svoboda, and they got only 1 seat out of 450.

But don't let the reality get in the way of your urge to parrot Kremlin propaganda.

Fairy muff.

I couldn't help but notice that, once again, Liz Truss was making explicit threats against the Nord-Stream 2 pipe line.
I hate to be banging the same drum repeatedly but Opec and the US seem determined that whatever happens, Gazprom are not going to be allowed to flood Europe with cheap LNG which will break their cartel.
Like all cartels, they will say and do anything to protect their monopoly.

Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:
Azov Battalion? Yeah, they're a bunch of nutcases. But they aren't representative of the Ukrainian armed forces (or political scene) as a whole, they are merely a hangover from the 2014 chaos. Clearly the Ukrainian government is slowly sidelining them, giving them harmless tasks like training old grannies.

You should bear in mind that the latest Ukrainian parliamentary elections only saw one far-right party represented, Svoboda, and they got only 1 seat out of 450.

But don't let the reality get in the way of your urge to parrot Kremlin propaganda.

Fairy muff.

I couldn't help but notice that, once again, Liz Truss was making explicit threats against the Nord-Stream 2 pipe line.
I hate to be banging the same drum repeatedly but Opec and the US seem determined that whatever happens, Gazprom are not going to be allowed to flood Europe with cheap LNG which will break their cartel.
Like all cartels, they will say and do anything to protect their monopoly.

Are you suggesting America is provoking this crisis to get the Nord-Stream 2 pipeline shut down?

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:
Fairy muff.

I couldn't help but notice that, once again, Liz Truss was making explicit threats against the Nord-Stream 2 pipe line.
I hate to be banging the same drum repeatedly but Opec and the US seem determined that whatever happens, Gazprom are not going to be allowed to flood Europe with cheap LNG which will break their cartel.
Like all cartels, they will say and do anything to protect their monopoly.

Are you suggesting America is provoking this crisis to get the Nord-Stream 2 pipeline shut down?

Yeah. Absolutely.
That's why the CIA funded ISIS.
The first thing ISIS did when they were the Western allies was to attack the pipeline.
They subsequently turned out to be psychopathic imbeciles but by then they'd done their job.

Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:
Are you suggesting America is provoking this crisis to get the Nord-Stream 2 pipeline shut down?

Yeah. Absolutely.
That's why the CIA funded ISIS.
The first thing ISIS did when they were the Western allies was to attack the pipeline.
They subsequently turned out to be psychopathic imbeciles but by then they'd done their job.

I don't know about ISIS, but I agree that Turkey/Saudi/US funded the Syrian Civil War to stop that pipeline.

But if we look to the facts in the Ukraine situation, it is very clear who the aggressor is - a hint for you Kol, it's the one occupying the other's territory.

morepork wrote:American politicians are incapable of planning that far ahead.

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

kk67 wrote:
Fairy muff.

I couldn't help but notice that, once again, Liz Truss was making explicit threats against the Nord-Stream 2 pipe line.
I hate to be banging the same drum repeatedly but Opec and the US seem determined that whatever happens, Gazprom are not going to be allowed to flood Europe with cheap LNG which will break their cartel.
Like all cartels, they will say and do anything to protect their monopoly.

Are you suggesting America is provoking this crisis to get the Nord-Stream 2 pipeline shut down?

Yeah. Absolutely.
That's why the CIA funded ISIS.
The first thing ISIS did when they were the Western allies was to attack the pipeline.
They subsequently turned out to be psychopathic imbeciles but by then they'd done their job.

Sandydragon wrote:

kk67 wrote:

Zhivago wrote:
Are you suggesting America is provoking this crisis to get the Nord-Stream 2 pipeline shut down?

Yeah. Absolutely.
That's why the CIA funded ISIS.
The first thing ISIS did when they were the Western allies was to attack the pipeline.
They subsequently turned out to be psychopathic imbeciles but by then they'd done their job.

The CIA didn’t fund ISIS. They funded the Mujaheddin back in the day but thenISIS link is just a conspiracy theorists wet dream.

Sandydragon wrote: The CIA didn’t fund ISIS. They funded the Mujaheddin back in the day but then ISIS link is just a conspiracy theorists wet dream.

kk67 wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: The CIA didn’t fund ISIS. They funded the Mujaheddin back in the day but then ISIS link is just a conspiracy theorists wet dream.

You're living in a dream world. I respect you Sandy but shit is about to get real.

Zhivago wrote:This is brazen
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ex ... 022-02-19/

kk67 wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: The CIA didn’t fund ISIS. They funded the Mujaheddin back in the day but then ISIS link is just a conspiracy theorists wet dream.

You're living in a dream world. I respect you Sandy but shit is about to get real.

Zhivago wrote:I see some similarities with the West's approach
https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/chamberla ... ce/zjrjgwx

"As long as war has not begun, there is always hope that it may be prevented"
It begun in 2014, but the West is still hoping.