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Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:13 am
by fivepointer
FKAS wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:03 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:51 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:32 pm

Huge disappointment- they thought this lot were the biz
Very disappointing. I’ve got to level a decent amount at the coaches who I think have poorly selected this year, both squad and team selection.
The forwards seem to have a lot going for them but the back division just seems far from settled and unable to control the game or find any real fluency. The coaches have to take some flak for that because it's the same issues we had in the 6N and their answer then was Bellamy at 15 to assist Coen at 10 and it didn't work well then and isn't working well now.

At least there's some stellar backs going to be available for the under 20s next season when some of these lot are moved on. Hopefully we'll have some similarly good forwards to give them a platform.
There you have it. Half back is obviously an issue but the forwards at times couldnt construct a driving maul and got easily turned over post tackle.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:09 pm
by p/d
Banquo wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:04 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 8:15 pm Ireland lost very heavily so they’re done. Just need France to be ruthless and at least we get a semi.
Not had one for a while. It’s my age
That deserved more

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:58 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
FKAS wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:03 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:51 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:32 pm

Huge disappointment- they thought this lot were the biz
Very disappointing. I’ve got to level a decent amount at the coaches who I think have poorly selected this year, both squad and team selection.
The forwards seem to have a lot going for them but the back division just seems far from settled and unable to control the game or find any real fluency. The coaches have to take some flak for that because it's the same issues we had in the 6N and their answer then was Bellamy at 15 to assist Coen at 10 and it didn't work well then and isn't working well now.

At least there's some stellar backs going to be available for the under 20s next season when some of these lot are moved on. Hopefully we'll have some similarly good forwards to give them a platform.
There’s some very good forwards coming through, like Patrick Hogg and Jonno Balding, but players like Tayo Agbemile who didn’t play this year.

Some stellar backs coming through. Davies has another year and Linegar will battle him for the 10 shirt. Lads like Winters are also super talented.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:03 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:58 pm
FKAS wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:03 am
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:51 pm

Very disappointing. I’ve got to level a decent amount at the coaches who I think have poorly selected this year, both squad and team selection.
The forwards seem to have a lot going for them but the back division just seems far from settled and unable to control the game or find any real fluency. The coaches have to take some flak for that because it's the same issues we had in the 6N and their answer then was Bellamy at 15 to assist Coen at 10 and it didn't work well then and isn't working well now.

At least there's some stellar backs going to be available for the under 20s next season when some of these lot are moved on. Hopefully we'll have some similarly good forwards to give them a platform.
There’s some very good forwards coming through, like Patrick Hogg and Jonno Balding, but players like Tayo Agbemile who didn’t play this year.

Some stellar backs coming through. Davies has another year and Linegar will battle him for the 10 shirt. Lads like Winters are also super talented.
suspect they will field next years lads mostly in the next match

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:11 am
by Epaminondas Pules
Banquo wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:03 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:58 pm
FKAS wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:03 am

The forwards seem to have a lot going for them but the back division just seems far from settled and unable to control the game or find any real fluency. The coaches have to take some flak for that because it's the same issues we had in the 6N and their answer then was Bellamy at 15 to assist Coen at 10 and it didn't work well then and isn't working well now.

At least there's some stellar backs going to be available for the under 20s next season when some of these lot are moved on. Hopefully we'll have some similarly good forwards to give them a platform.
There’s some very good forwards coming through, like Patrick Hogg and Jonno Balding, but players like Tayo Agbemile who didn’t play this year.

Some stellar backs coming through. Davies has another year and Linegar will battle him for the 10 shirt. Lads like Winters are also super talented.
suspect they will field next years lads mostly in the next match
We've got two matches left and where we finish will have an impact on the type of group we next next year.

Finishing 1 - 3 are top seeds. They'll likely be SA, France and NZ.
4 - 6 next, but position four goes into the group with the team that finishes 3rd.

Best we can finish is 5th, in which case we'd be in a group with the losing finalist.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:49 am
by Which Tyler

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:33 am
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:11 am
Banquo wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:03 pm
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:58 pm

There’s some very good forwards coming through, like Patrick Hogg and Jonno Balding, but players like Tayo Agbemile who didn’t play this year.

Some stellar backs coming through. Davies has another year and Linegar will battle him for the 10 shirt. Lads like Winters are also super talented.
suspect they will field next years lads mostly in the next match
We've got two matches left and where we finish will have an impact on the type of group we next next year.

Finishing 1 - 3 are top seeds. They'll likely be SA, France and NZ.
4 - 6 next, but position four goes into the group with the team that finishes 3rd.

Best we can finish is 5th, in which case we'd be in a group with the losing finalist.
we shall see.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:43 pm
by Which Tyler
Anyone else's yotu e being absolutely ruined with adverts?

They can't go 5 minutes without interrupting the rugny, which they do t even stop, just play an advert over it, before spending another 30seconds showing a thumbnail instead of the actual stream,!

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:20 pm
by Danno
Which Tyler wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:43 pm Anyone else's yotu e being absolutely ruined with adverts?

They can't go 5 minutes without interrupting the rugny, which they do t even stop, just play an advert over it, before spending another 30seconds showing a thumbnail instead of the actual stream,!
Use Brave browser instead of Chrome (who have now fully disabled uBlock like the money grubbing cunts they are) or an app.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:45 pm
by Which Tyler
I'm on the telly's own app.
Never been remotely this bad before (not that I use YouTube much)

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:47 pm
by Danno
Which Tyler wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:45 pm I'm on the telly's own app.
Never been remotely this bad before (not that I use YouTube much)
Aye, I meant don't use Chrome, don't use an app

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:18 am
by Danno
Not a bad second half vs Italy!

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:50 pm
by fivepointer
England U20 vs Wales (2.30 KO)

15 Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 15 caps)
14 Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 11 caps)
13 Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 6 caps)
12 Will Knight (Gloucester Rugby, Longlevens RFC, 2 caps)
11 Campbell Ridl (Exeter Chiefs, Sharks, 5 caps)
10 Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 12 caps)
9 Archie McParland (Northampton Saints, Ruthin RFC, 8 caps)
1 Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 8 caps)
2 Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 8 caps)
3 Ollie Streeter (Harlequins, Haywards Heath RFC, 1 cap)
4 Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 17 caps)
5 Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 8 caps)
6 Seb Kelly (Sale Sharks, Rochdale RFC, 1 cap)
7 Sam Williams (Leicester Tigers, Nottingham Corsairs RFC, 2 caps)
8 Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 5 caps)

Replacements
16 Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 6 caps)
17 Oli Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 7 caps)
18 Vilikesa Sela (Bath Rugby, Royal Wootton Bassett RFC, 13 caps)
19 Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 7 caps)
20 Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 17 caps)
21 Jonny Weimann (Northampton Saints, Royston Rugby Club, 4 caps)
22 Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 6 caps)
23 Noah Caluori (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby, 2 caps)

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:32 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Pretty convincing win after a shaky start. Jack Bracken just continues to look like an exceptional talent! Calouri has all the raw materials but is still quite immature decision making wise. But the. He’s still a school kid.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:42 pm
by fivepointer
Ran away with after h/t. Looked pretty sharp at times.

Re: U20 JWC

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:58 pm
by Banquo
Epaminondas Pules wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:32 pm Pretty convincing win after a shaky start. Jack Bracken just continues to look like an exceptional talent! Calouri has all the raw materials but is still quite immature decision making wise. But the. He’s still a school kid.
Yeah saw Caluori v Japan u19s, great going forward, but his oppo made a mug of him.