RugbyRebels

rowan wrote:The examples you refer to involve Muslims targeting others from other sects, notably Sunni Wahhabists targeting Shi'ites. That's quite different. If ISIS thought this was a good way to attack France, exact revenge for their involvement in Syria and terrify the Christian West, it must be pretty dam stupid. That's if we are ourselves stupid enough to believe it is a legitimate terrorist super power bent on attacking the West at every opportunity in the first place, of course

Indeed. It's more media than Mujahadeen.

UGagain wrote:

rowan wrote:The examples you refer to involve Muslims targeting others from other sects, notably Sunni Wahhabists targeting Shi'ites. That's quite different. If ISIS thought this was a good way to attack France, exact revenge for their involvement in Syria and terrify the Christian West, it must be pretty dam stupid. That's if we are ourselves stupid enough to believe it is a legitimate terrorist super power bent on attacking the West at every opportunity in the first place, of course

Indeed. It's more media than Mujahadeen.

Do OPEC qualify as a terrorist superpower...?.
>Yes
>>Good,....They clearly are.

rowan wrote:The examples you refer to involve Muslims targeting others from other sects, notably Sunni Wahhabists targeting Shi'ites. That's quite different. If ISIS thought this was a good way to attack France, exact revenge for their involvement in Syria and terrify the Christian West, it must be pretty dam stupid. That's if we are ourselves stupid enough to believe it is a legitimate terrorist super power bent on attacking the West at every opportunity in the first place, of course

Not necessarily from other sects. If a Muslim is viewed to be in sufficiently faithful they can be fair game. Or just in the way.

Sandydragon wrote:

rowan wrote:The examples you refer to involve Muslims targeting others from other sects, notably Sunni Wahhabists targeting Shi'ites. That's quite different. If ISIS thought this was a good way to attack France, exact revenge for their involvement in Syria and terrify the Christian West, it must be pretty dam stupid. That's if we are ourselves stupid enough to believe it is a legitimate terrorist super power bent on attacking the West at every opportunity in the first place, of course

Not necessarily from other sects. If a Muslim is viewed to be in sufficiently faithful they can be fair game. Or just in the way.

That's not terrorism though.& a good example of it would be Saudi Arabia, close allies and trading partners of the US & Western Europe, and current partners in crime in Yemen & Syria.

We invade, terrorise and destroy their countries in war and greed, we bully them deeper into poverty and fear. We fight them and portray them to be less than human, effectively removing the only non-violent retaliation they have – their voice.

Of course this creates anger, and equally as importantly, this creates divide – a divide that is only widened by the biggest media voices in the world, overpowering the now silenced murmurs of the Syrians, the Iraqis, the Turks, the Somalis, the Pakistanis, and countless other victims of the US’s War on Terror.

In 2015 alone, the US dropped over 23,000 bombs on Muslim-majority countries. Compare this to the total of zero bombs dropped by Muslim-led governments on US soil. Also compare this to the over 4 million Muslim lives lost in the War on Terror. And then compare that to the approximately 3,500 American lives lost world wide at the hands of Jihadists in the same period, and note that almost 3,000 of these deaths were just from September 11.

That’s 3,500 American deaths in 20 years. Let me do that math for you. On average, that comes to less than half of one American per day. For the same period, it’s approximately 440 Muslims deaths per day.

Muslim communities have lost double the amount of people per day than has America lost in the past 10 years. That’s 114,285 times the amount of American casualties. And we Westerners still sit in our brainwashed bubbles and wonder why these types of attacks keep happening to us.

https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/18/when- ... ds-of-all/

UGagain wrote:We invade, terrorise and destroy their countries in war and greed, we bully them deeper into poverty and fear. We fight them and portray them to be less than human, effectively removing the only non-violent retaliation they have – their voice.

Of course this creates anger, and equally as importantly, this creates divide – a divide that is only widened by the biggest media voices in the world, overpowering the now silenced murmurs of the Syrians, the Iraqis, the Turks, the Somalis, the Pakistanis, and countless other victims of the US’s War on Terror.

In 2015 alone, the US dropped over 23,000 bombs on Muslim-majority countries. Compare this to the total of zero bombs dropped by Muslim-led governments on US soil. Also compare this to the over 4 million Muslim lives lost in the War on Terror. And then compare that to the approximately 3,500 American lives lost world wide at the hands of Jihadists in the same period, and note that almost 3,000 of these deaths were just from September 11.

That’s 3,500 American deaths in 20 years. Let me do that math for you. On average, that comes to less than half of one American per day. For the same period, it’s approximately 440 Muslims deaths per day.

Muslim communities have lost double the amount of people per day than has America lost in the past 10 years. That’s 114,285 times the amount of American casualties. And we Westerners still sit in our brainwashed bubbles and wonder why these types of attacks keep happening to us.

https://newmatilda.com/2016/07/18/when- ... ds-of-all/

Many estimates go much higher, with 6 - 8 million often mentioned - though even those figures are becoming outdated now, and given what's going on almost daily in Iraq, Syria, Libya & Yemen, it could realistically be approaching the 8-figure mark: http://www.voltairenet.org/article187299.html

French Government orders destruction of CCTV videos in Nice Attacks
Gearóid Ó Colmáin

A report in 21st of July edition of Le Figaro newspaper states that France’s anti-terrorist executive ( sous-direction anti-terroriste- SDAT) has ordered Nice’s urban surveillance authorities to destroy all CCTV footage of the Nice Attacks on Bastille Day that rocked the city on the 14th of July 2016.

Although SDAT have cited articles 53 and L706-24 of the prosecution procedure and article R642-1 of the penal code, authorities in Nice interviewed by Le Figaro say that it is the first time they have ever been asked to destroy evidence at a crime scene – something they point out is illegal.

The explanation given by the French Ministry of Justice is that they don’t want ‘uncontrolled’ and ‘non-authorised (non maîtrisée) diffusion of the images of the terrorist attacks. The Judicial Police have noted that 140 videos of the attacks in their possession show ‘important pieces of the inquiry’ (éléments d’enquête intéressants). The French government claims it wants to prevent ISIS from gaining access to videos of the attacks for the purposes of propaganda. They also claim that the destruction of evidence is intended to protect the families of the victims. The comments section of the Le Figaro article is replete with outrage and disgust by the fact that the French government, instead of preserving evidence for the purposes of a thorough, independent investigation, is in fact behaving rather more like the chief suspect in the attack – ordering the destruction of vital evidence.

http://www.gearoidocolmain.org/en/frenc ... e-attacks/