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Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:34 am
by Oakboy
Bring it on. Beating Australia with Jones in charge would be sweet!
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:55 am
by Banquo
he must be laughing his socks off. Fair play.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:58 am
by fivepointer
It was obvious he was going to walk into a lucrative long term job. He does have a good record and made it plain he wanted to continue. Could be a masterstroke by the Aussies. Feel a bit for Rennie who had the most awful injury situation to deal with.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:12 am
by Which Tyler
I R Geech wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:20 pm
Have the RFU heard on non compete clauses or do they just like handing out money?
Is there such a thing as a legally enforceable non-compete clause?
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:58 am
by 16th man
Eddie generally has a good first impact, so this could be a very sharp move by the Aussies.
Unless Gatland performs a miracle, they should be winning their group regardless of coach, so if we cock up then we would meet them in the quarters. Otherwise its only a worry if we both make the final, which has a vanishingly small likelihood of happening.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:44 pm
by Beasties
Well that’s certainly made things …… interesting.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:26 pm
by FKAS
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:12 am
I R Geech wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:20 pm
Have the RFU heard on non compete clauses or do they just like handing out money?
Is there such a thing as a legally enforceable non-compete clause?
You agree a gardening leave period for what would be the remainder of his contract so that he still gets the benefits associated with the job (presumably healthcare etc) and remains on paper an employee (albeit one that doesn't have to turn up for work).
Eddie would have had to agree to that, I'm guessing that the RFU just wanted rid so Eddie named his price and they thrashed it out.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:48 pm
by Which Tyler
Doesn't gardening leave leave you open to accusations of constructive dismissal?
The only places I'm aware of these things being enforceable is detailed knowledge of patented/market sensitive systems - which I very, very much doubt applies to rugby playbooks.
Of course, I'm very happy to be corrected by anyone with actual, legal knowledge of these things.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:52 pm
by Spiffy
Though Os has been going through a lean patch, you can see that they have some exciting young players coming through and the makings of a very good team. If/when they gel, Jonny-come-lately Jones will sit back and enjoy all the credit.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:17 pm
by Mellsblue
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:26 pm
by p/d
A quick synopsis:
‘McLennan’s wife, Lucinda, cooked dinner – a serving of Portuguese chicken and salad – which was warmly appreciated by Jones.’
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:52 pm
by Mellsblue
I miss him already.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:57 pm
by p/d
I miss Delilah
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:35 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:52 pm
I miss him already.
He should have gone all SCW and gone with EDDIE
!
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 am
by Mellsblue
Just stumbled across this quote from Borth Daddy last week:
“When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
Pretty farking damning.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:27 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 am
Just stumbled across this quote from Borth Daddy last week:
“When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
Pretty farking damning.
pretty farking laying the ground for saying 'don't blame me for being 4th in the 6N, look how much work I had to do'
(but yes, the wheels had come off)
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:29 am
by Mikey Brown
Yeah it seemed like a bit of a weird thing to publicise to be honest.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:31 am
by fivepointer
Borthwick is right. Stats and results dont lie.
3rd or 4th place might be as good as it gets this 6N's. I'm not expecting anything better as we are clearly behind some of the other teams and that isnt going to change any time soon.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:32 am
by Banquo
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:31 am
Borthwick is right. Stats and results dont lie.
3rd or 4th place might be as good as it gets this 6N's. I'm not expecting anything better as we are clearly behind some of the other teams and that isnt going to change any time soon.
amazing we managed to beat Australia away and get a draw with NZ tbh
But I agree- Ireland at full tilt vs our last outing and we get hammered.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:36 am
by ad_tigger
That quote depends on the emphasis a lot
"When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
"When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
I read it the second way, as everyone keeps banging on about, Borthwick is a details guy and an analyst so I think before he started he had in his head a numerical scale of what good was for a load of the measurable aspects of play eg.
% of scrums won on own ball
% of sub 2 second attacking rucks etc.
But yeah, it is both damning of Eddie and indicating that there's a lot of work to do/setting expectations.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:42 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:27 am
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 am
Just stumbled across this quote from Borth Daddy last week:
“When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
Pretty farking damning.
pretty farking laying the ground for saying 'don't blame me for being 4th in the 6N, look how much work I had to do'
(but yes, the wheels had come off)
Yeah, I had the same thought initially but it doesn’t strike me as Borthers move.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:44 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:32 am
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:31 am
Borthwick is right. Stats and results dont lie.
3rd or 4th place might be as good as it gets this 6N's. I'm not expecting anything better as we are clearly behind some of the other teams and that isnt going to change any time soon.
amazing we managed to beat Australia away and get a draw with NZ tbh
But I agree- Ireland at full tilt vs our last outing and we get hammered.
An Oz B team and a freak 10 mins..
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:46 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:44 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:32 am
fivepointer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:31 am
Borthwick is right. Stats and results dont lie.
3rd or 4th place might be as good as it gets this 6N's. I'm not expecting anything better as we are clearly behind some of the other teams and that isnt going to change any time soon.
amazing we managed to beat Australia away and get a draw with NZ tbh
But I agree- Ireland at full tilt vs our last outing and we get hammered.
An Oz B team and a freak 10 mins..
the harder you work, the more you freak

.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:47 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:42 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:27 am
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:18 am
Just stumbled across this quote from Borth Daddy last week:
“When I looked at the team in the autumn, when I measured the team and got all the data for the team, we weren't good at anything.”
Pretty farking damning.
pretty farking laying the ground for saying 'don't blame me for being 4th in the 6N, look how much work I had to do'
(but yes, the wheels had come off)
Yeah, I had the same thought initially but it doesn’t strike me as Borthers move.
Bdaddy is a cunning man.
Re: Jones gone (Now 100% confirmed)
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:51 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:47 am
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:42 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:27 am
pretty farking laying the ground for saying 'don't blame me for being 4th in the 6N, look how much work I had to do'
(but yes, the wheels had come off)
Yeah, I had the same thought initially but it doesn’t strike me as Borthers move.
Bdaddy is a cunning man.
Let’s hope the B in Bdaddy doesn’t stand for Baldrick.