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You chaps might want a new title for this thread now.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:You chaps might want a new title for this thread now.

Good point.

Cameo wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:I really dont like the sound of that scrum-cap idea. Is that irrational?

The scrum cap or you not liking it?

I think (though I could be wrong) that studies say a Scrum cap won't reduce concussion but I can understand why Russel might want it if he also broke a bone in his face.

Incidentally I think one of the downsides is meant to be that they make you more reckless but not sure that applies to Russell as he is already fairly reckless with his body

My dislike of the idea. It just makes me worry that we don't think he's totally okay and this is putting a dodgy plaster on a very serious wound.

It's dumb because I got a bunch of concussions and ended up wearing a scrum-cap myself. It's a strange mindset when you're worried about hitting your head all time (not that strange now that I write it down) that can make people (me) rather useless as players.

I only started wearing a scrumcap when my ears displayed a marked reluctance to stay attached to my head, and got fed up with regular visits to A&E to have them stitched up. I received at least one concussion wearing it (and one yellow card for tearing it off and chucking at a particularly stupid ref, like a fucking 4 year old)

Out of interest - the latest RFU concussion info-leaflets specify that scrum caps are of no benefit in preventing concussion, and may increase risk.

I see that several (online) shops also point out that they won't protect against concussion in the product description (about bloody time too). I give a talk on injury management at the local club most years; and specify that scrum caps don't protect, and if anything increase your chances of suffering concussion.
I've found that my demonstration or taping a scrum cap to the back of a cricket bat, and asking someone to head-but the unprotected side makes my point quite well (clue, the brain's INSIDE the skull - padding the outside doesn't help)

hp18 wrote:It'll do chuff all for concussion, doubt it'll provide Mich protection for a bone but who knows. Suspect it's mostly psychological.... Or his missus is making him wear it.

It'll do fuck all.

OptimisticJock wrote:

hp18 wrote:It'll do chuff all for concussion, doubt it'll provide Mich protection for a bone but who knows. Suspect it's mostly psychological.... Or his missus is making him wear it.

It'll do fuck all.

No, they stop your ears getting torn....

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

hp18 wrote:It'll do chuff all for concussion, doubt it'll provide Mich protection for a bone but who knows. Suspect it's mostly psychological.... Or his missus is making him wear it.

It'll do fuck all.

No, they stop your ears getting torn....

You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote: It'll do fuck all.

No, they stop your ears getting torn....

You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

I know, I'm having a "be a cunt" Friday.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote: It'll do fuck all.

No, they stop your ears getting torn....

You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

I know, I'm having a "be a cunt" Friday.

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: No, they stop your ears getting torn....

You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

I know, I'm having a "be a cunt" Friday.

My apologies. Carry on.

Is this on tv tonight?

General Zod wrote:Is this on tv tonight?

No. We're getting another episode of the Benny Hill Show Edinburgh v someone

Stones of granite wrote:

General Zod wrote:Is this on tv tonight?

No. We're getting another episode of the Benny Hill Show Edinburgh v someone

Yeah - saw that, but can't bring myself to watch it. Although I probably will as I've got a flyer today and will be suitably lubricated not to really notice how grim it is by then.

Think Glasgow have a tough game, having seen the teams. Will be impressed if they win.

General Zod wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

General Zod wrote:Is this on tv tonight?

No. We're getting another episode of the Benny Hill Show Edinburgh v someone

Yeah - saw that, but can't bring myself to watch it. Although I probably will as I've got a flyer today and will be suitably lubricated not to really notice how grim it is by then.

Think Glasgow have a tough game, having seen the teams. Will be impressed if they win.

I'll probably watch it. The dog has already been walked.


Hmmm....it just occurs to me that "the dog has already been walked" could be interpreted as some kind of euphemism. But no. I took the dog out for a walk.

That's a tiny back line. Glasgow still capable of getting a result but Cardiff's big runners could do some damage on set plays.

Agree with most of the comments on the scrum cap. Pointless move.

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: No, they stop your ears getting torn....

You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

I know, I'm having a "be a cunt" Friday.

That's every Friday for baz.


Strange to have us all in agreement on the scrumcaps.

I wore one a few times but was fed up of not hearing anything and would chuck it away at half time.

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Adder wrote:I wore one a few times but was fed up of not hearing anything and would chuck it away at half time.

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Evening Mr Murray.

I wore one a few times in second row but found I was usually re-adjusting it while running, etc after a scrum. Tape, a number one crew cut and being too slow to get to rucks generally did the job.

hp18 wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote: You're right but that's not the point I was responding to.

I know, I'm having a "be a cunt" Friday.

That's every day for baz.


Strange to have us all in agreement on the scrumcaps.

Fixed that for you.


You can't argue with medicine. Well you can I suppose but then you end up like those anti-vaccine dafties.

OptimisticJock wrote:

hp18 wrote: That's every day for baz.


Strange to have us all in agreement on the scrumcaps.

Fixed that for you.


You can't argue with medicine. Well you can I suppose but then you end up like those anti-vaccine dafties.

There's a few special types on here I've no doubt would argue.

General Zod wrote:I wore one a few times in second row but found I was usually re-adjusting it while running, etc after a scrum. Tape, a number one crew cut and being too slow to get to rucks generally did the job.

Never wore one either, it was far to difficult for me to appreciate the sound of my own voice with it on. That and the only time I found myself in something as uneducated as a ruck was when one of you lot would lumber up 10 minutes too late for it and "accidentally" blast me into it just as I got my hands on the ball.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

General Zod wrote:I wore one a few times in second row but found I was usually re-adjusting it while running, etc after a scrum. Tape, a number one crew cut and being too slow to get to rucks generally did the job.

Never wore one either, it was far to difficult for me to appreciate the sound of my own voice with it on. That and the only time I found myself in something as uneducated as a ruck was when one of you lot would lumber up 10 minutes too late for it and "accidentally" blast me into it just as I got my hands on the ball.

Surprised they could crouch that low.

hp18 wrote:

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:

General Zod wrote:I wore one a few times in second row but found I was usually re-adjusting it while running, etc after a scrum. Tape, a number one crew cut and being too slow to get to rucks generally did the job.

Never wore one either, it was far to difficult for me to appreciate the sound of my own voice with it on. That and the only time I found myself in something as uneducated as a ruck was when one of you lot would lumber up 10 minutes too late for it and "accidentally" blast me into it just as I got my hands on the ball.

Surprised they could crouch that low.

Indeed, I suspect most of the time they tripped over their own arms trying to heave their knuckles off the ground.