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He's building a wall to create jobs, not to keep the 'cans out.

zer0 wrote:They're not really legislation. From what I understand, executive orders govern how the federal government operates. Although they can get murky vis-à-vis law-making. They're also very common. Every post war president has issued hundreds of the things.

Hundreds? Hardly.

Strangely, not a word was uttered when Obama signed an EO placing further sanctions on North Korea, a country which has been devastated by American aspirations for global hegemony.

The Don signs an order "banning" muslims from entering the US for 120 days?

D'internet is outraged.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:He's building a wall to create jobs, not to keep the 'cans out.

Of course he is. Because he doesn't realise that trading internationally is a good thing. Protectionism doesn't work.

Sandydragon wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:He's building a wall to create jobs, not to keep the 'cans out.

Of course he is. Because he doesn't realise that trading internationally is a good thing. Protectionism doesn't work.

America isn't going to stop trading with Mexico, or anyone else.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

zer0 wrote:They're not really legislation. From what I understand, executive orders govern how the federal government operates. Although they can get murky vis-à-vis law-making. They're also very common. Every post war president has issued hundreds of the things.

Hundreds? Hardly.

Strangely, not a word was uttered when Obama signed an EO placing further sanctions on North Korea, a country which has been devastated by American aspirations for global hegemony.

The Don signs an order "banning" muslims from entering the US for 120 days?

D'internet is outraged.

Oh hypocrisy knows know bounds. Obama dropped 26,000 bombs in his last year in office alone, and you can bet your bottom dollar most of those were dropped on the countries in this list. No one cares about Muslims when we are wiping them off the face of the earth in the middle east, but as soon as it affects a few Googlers on work trips the liberal warriors come out in their droves.

However - in saying all this, these orders are despicable and extremely scary. Just because someone didn't protest before does not make them any less effective protesting now. The more people that get involved and fight this sort of stuff the better, and who knows, it may even open a few people's eyes and create long term change.

Can you picture Trumps' support team holding their heads in their hands , waking up each morning and thinking " WTF has he come up with now ? "

jared_7 wrote:
Oh hypocrisy knows know bounds. Obama dropped 26,000 bombs in his last year in office alone, and you can bet your bottom dollar most of those were dropped on the countries in this list. No one cares about Muslims when we are wiping them off the face of the earth in the middle east, but as soon as it affects a few Googlers on work trips the liberal warriors come out in their droves.

First World problems.

However - in saying all this, these orders are despicable and extremely scary. Just because someone didn't protest before does not make them any less effective protesting now. The more people that get involved and fight this sort of stuff the better, and who knows, it may even open a few people's eyes and create long term change.

It's not the first time EOs have been signed limiting immigration from certain countries. It won't be the last.

The protests in the states are very small. A few thousand people in JFK for example. In a city of 10 million people, that's nothing. What's happening is the American media, which is for the most part "liberal" in its outlook, is creating the impression that there's world wide outrage.

I don't know what the media are saying in the UK, but here in Ireland, media outlets, including the state broadcaster have escalated their attacks on Trump since he was elected "it wasn't supposed to happen this way", "Americans are stupid". Of course, the Micker suckling is more concerned about having seppo corporate teet taken from its ravenous gob.

The state broadcaster has been told to calm down, because Paddy will be going to the White house in March, with cap in hand. The Irish prime minister called Trump a racist before the election. That's been changed to "A man with a big heart".

Other media outlets have continued delivering salvoes of vitriol and vituperative. Now, when you see that those outlets are owned by an oligarch called Dinny O'Brien, and that this gent has a special relationship with the democrats, then there's a good chance that a lot of what they're telling us is bollox.

Be slow to believe and quick to question Jared.

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/ob ... -tell-you/

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”

Vengeful Glutton wrote:https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/ob ... -tell-you/

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”

This is true, but right now, today, there are legal residents being detained for no good reason. The only good that can come of this is that homeland security gets shaken right up and scrutiny goes all the way to unjustified military action over the last 20 years. Meanwhile Captain Orange has appointed more ex-Goldman Sachs employees to the national security council. Thank fuck the US has some selfless civil rights legal bodies on this. It's a complete fucking mess here at the moment.

morepork wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/ob ... -tell-you/

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”

This is true, but right now, today, there are legal residents being detained for no good reason. The only good that can come of this is that homeland security gets shaken right up and scrutiny goes all the way to unjustified military action over the last 20 years. Meanwhile Captain Orange has appointed more ex-Goldman Sachs employees to the national security council. Thank fuck the US has some selfless civil rights legal bodies on this. It's a complete fucking mess here at the moment.

You sure about that? Someone just told me it was all a media beat up...

WaspInWales wrote: I wonder who's idea it was for Trump and May to hold hands at the press conference? Seems to me like an orchestrated effort by Trump's team to make it look like he's a 'gent' and not the woman hating monster that everyone else thinks he is.

I'd assumed it was just her way of stopping him grabbing her pussy.

morepork wrote:
This is true, but right now, today, there are legal residents being detained for no good reason. The only good that can come of this is that homeland security gets shaken right up and scrutiny goes all the way to unjustified military action over the last 20 years. Meanwhile Captain Orange has appointed more ex-Goldman Sachs employees to the national security council. Thank fuck the US has some selfless civil rights legal bodies on this. It's a complete fucking mess here at the moment.

Can you elaborate?

jared_7 wrote:

morepork wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/ob ... -tell-you/

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”

This is true, but right now, today, there are legal residents being detained for no good reason. The only good that can come of this is that homeland security gets shaken right up and scrutiny goes all the way to unjustified military action over the last 20 years. Meanwhile Captain Orange has appointed more ex-Goldman Sachs employees to the national security council. Thank fuck the US has some selfless civil rights legal bodies on this. It's a complete fucking mess here at the moment.

You sure about that? Someone just told me it was all a media beat up...

If it's a "fucking mess" why doesn't he/she leave?

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

jared_7 wrote:

morepork wrote:

This is true, but right now, today, there are legal residents being detained for no good reason. The only good that can come of this is that homeland security gets shaken right up and scrutiny goes all the way to unjustified military action over the last 20 years. Meanwhile Captain Orange has appointed more ex-Goldman Sachs employees to the national security council. Thank fuck the US has some selfless civil rights legal bodies on this. It's a complete fucking mess here at the moment.

You sure about that? Someone just told me it was all a media beat up...

If it's a "fucking mess" why doesn't he/she leave?

Fuck off cunt. Who are you to make assumptions about my situation or motivation in this discussion? Wanker.

It's a mess because a lot of people who are legal residents are in limbo because no one knows what the fuck they are doing. I picked up someone at Philly airport flying in from Europe yesterday afternoon, and immigration are pretty much headless chooks. They are doing their best, but....

I know of two colleagues that are having to deal with this right now. It's messy for them.

Sounds like someone's in danger of being deported back to New Zealand.

You can sort out the dairy farm industry when you get back mucker.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:Sounds like someone's in danger of being deported back to New Zealand.

You can sort out the dairy farm industry when you get back mucker.

What would you know about either? At least I have the perspective of actual experience. I wonder how fatuously authoritative you would be if denied an internet search engine?

morepork wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:Sounds like someone's in danger of being deported back to New Zealand.

You can sort out the dairy farm industry when you get back mucker.

What would you know about either? At least I have the perspective of actual experience. I wonder how fatuously authoritative you would be if denied an internet search engine?

Your "experience" is anecdotal. That doesn't qualify as authoritative.

Can you confirm that the same "fucking mess" has been apportioned across 50 states. I think not.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

morepork wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:Sounds like someone's in danger of being deported back to New Zealand.

You can sort out the dairy farm industry when you get back mucker.

What would you know about either? At least I have the perspective of actual experience. I wonder how fatuously authoritative you would be if denied an internet search engine?

Your "experience" is anecdotal. That doesn't qualify as authoritative.

Can you confirm that the same "fucking mess" has been apportioned across 50 states. I think not.

Sorry, "anecdotal"? You live in Ireland, but claim my experience at Philly International yesterday is less relevant than your google search? I never claimed authority, I claimed that you were a cunt. I'm not getting in the mud over 50 states with you. You spin more obtuse bullshit than the fucking bible.

morepork wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:

morepork wrote:

What would you know about either? At least I have the perspective of actual experience. I wonder how fatuously authoritative you would be if denied an internet search engine?

Your "experience" is anecdotal. That doesn't qualify as authoritative.

Can you confirm that the same "fucking mess" has been apportioned across 50 states. I think not.

Sorry, "anecdotal"? You live in Ireland, but claim my experience at Philly International yesterday is less relevant than your google search? I never claimed authority, I claimed that you were a cunt. I'm not getting in the mud over 50 states with you. You spin more obtuse bullshit than the fucking bible.

I never said it was less relevant. I'm asking you to elaborate on "fucking mess". So far you've provided anecdotal evidence.

I have many friends in the States. I haven't heard anything about a "fucking mess" over there.

Were they at an international airport yesterday? Did you contact them all individually and garner a consensus for Rugby Rebels? Bugger off.

As much fun as this is, I have to go to work.

Cowz bitches.

Vengeful Glutton wrote:Hundreds? Hardly.

Strangely, not a word was uttered when Obama signed an EO placing further sanctions on North Korea, a country which has been devastated by American aspirations for global hegemony.

The Don signs an order "banning" muslims from entering the US for 120 days?

D'internet is outraged.

Yes. Hundreds.

[President] = [number of executive orders issued]
Harry S. Truman = 907
Dwight D. Eisenhower = 484
John F. Kennedy = 214
Lyndon B. Johnson = 325
Richard Nixon = 346
Gerald R. Ford = 169
Jimmy Carter = 320
Ronald Reagan = 381
George H.W. Bush = 166
Bill Clinton = 308
George W. Bush = 291
Barack Obama = 276

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

zer0 wrote:

Vengeful Glutton wrote:Hundreds? Hardly.

Strangely, not a word was uttered when Obama signed an EO placing further sanctions on North Korea, a country which has been devastated by American aspirations for global hegemony.

The Don signs an order "banning" muslims from entering the US for 120 days?

D'internet is outraged.

Yes. Hundreds.

[President] = [number of executive orders issued]
Harry S. Truman = 907
Dwight D. Eisenhower = 484
John F. Kennedy = 214
Lyndon B. Johnson = 325
Richard Nixon = 346
Gerald R. Ford = 169
Jimmy Carter = 320
Ronald Reagan = 381
George H.W. Bush = 166
Bill Clinton = 308
George W. Bush = 291
Barack Obama = 276

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

Fair enough!

morepork wrote:Were they at an international airport yesterday? Did you contact them all individually and garner a consensus for Rugby Rebels? Bugger off.

As much fun as this is, I have to go to work.

Cowz bitches.

"Cnut", "bugger off", "cowz bitches" ?

Some muslim countries prohibit jews from entering their countries. Any thoughts on that?

Oh hypocrisy knows know bounds. Obama dropped 26,000 bombs in his last year in office alone, and you can bet your bottom dollar most of those were dropped on the countries in this list. No one cares about Muslims when we are wiping them off the face of the earth in the middle east, but as soon as it affects a few Googlers on work trips the liberal warriors come out in their droves.

That's because Donald doesn't have lovely daughters or dance well . . .

Some muslim countries prohibit jews from entering their countries. Any thoughts on that?

Which ones?

rowan wrote:Oh hypocrisy knows know bounds. Obama dropped 26,000 bombs in his last year in office alone, and you can bet your bottom dollar most of those were dropped on the countries in this list. No one cares about Muslims when we are wiping them off the face of the earth in the middle east, but as soon as it affects a few Googlers on work trips the liberal warriors come out in their droves.

That's because Donald doesn't have lovely daughters or dance well . . .

Some muslim countries prohibit jews from entering their countries. Any thoughts on that?

Which ones?

SA, Iran, Iraq, UAE, Pakistan?

Obama deported more people than his predecessor. Why no criticism of that? I don't recall any outrage in the MSM about it, do you?