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AB's look a bit rusty in their warm up.......

http://www.planetrugby.com/live/8258/85 ... 950-Samoa/

AL. wrote:AB's look a bit rusty in their warm up.......

http://www.planetrugby.com/live/8258/85 ... 950-Samoa/

Are they going to moan about being "undercooked" again?

Welsh and Scottish players only according to the press. Which begs the questions why did he not take at least 46 players anyway. They get taken away from their national team where they would be better off and then get a devalued Lions cap. You are not good enough for the original 40 something squad but come and play for us midweek to protect players that i think are better than you. This is brilliant.

skidger wrote:Welsh and Scottish players only according to the press. Which begs the questions why did he not take at least 46 players anyway. They get taken away from their national team where they would be better off and then get a devalued Lions cap. You are not good enough for the original 40 something squad but come and play for us midweek to protect players that i think are better than you. This is brilliant.

The whole thing is a farce now. It's just a brand.

Yup. I'd love for Russell and Gray to tell him to go fuck himself, especially if they're just filling the bench for the midweek side.

Kinda felt that's what Hogg, Seymore should have done day 1

If the scots do stick the finger up to them it will be interesting few days in the paper

Eeesh yeah, that'll be a grenade of a call up. Not keen on that at all. I see why he thinks he needs to do it, but that's rough as fuck for the players.

whatisthejava wrote:Kinda felt that's what Hogg, Seymore should have done day 1

If the scots do stick the finger up to them it will be interesting few days in the paper

Thing is, sadly, they are highly likely not to do so, as they get paid a lot more for it (not just now but in future self-marketing), and I think the SRU also get money somewhere out of it, so will be putting the pressure on if the players are wavering. FWIW, I wouldn't blame the players if they went - it's a short career after all.

However, it would be pleasing if they just said no to the whole corporate jamboree. If pressed on a reason, they could say, "No, Warren, I don't want to take part in your operation human shield". And maybe even shoehorn in a reference to the SRU being pressurised to get rid of the sevens team. Or something.

Itd be hard for them to turn down. Not good circumstances just being used as cannon fodder but it still makes you a lion and suddenly when decisions are made for the next one you are deemed experienced. Also, it only takes a couple of injuries and Gatland might ne forced to play you

Cameo wrote:Gatland might be forced to play you

And that's the main thing to avoid at all costs.

Yeah don't envy any players put in that position... I imagine Toonie would tell them to go for it as its experience of a lions tour, but I'd rather they stayed with Scotland, just for the sake of development.

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As much as I would like to see the Lions win (and I cant see it happening as the AB's are awesome), Gatland has made his bed, time to lie in it. Calling up players to cover his arse should not be allowed, only for genuine injuries for me.

Will this really happen? It sounds crazy.

Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

Chunks Baws wrote:Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

Stop with the hope, we will get Finn Russell called up to hold Dan Biggers bag and they will also call up

jamie Roberts, jake Ball, Anscrombe and one of the props

And we will be back to square 1

Gatland knows of the effect that being on a lions tour has on players brecause they get to see first hand that they are no worse than the rest of Britain, why would he not give that to as many welsh as he could

Chunks Baws wrote:Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

#lionswithoutalaunchpad

Well, I for one am thoroughly looking forward to Gregs well thought out and reasoned response to this news.

Makes sense to call from the Welsh and Scots though. The Welsh are already in NZ and the Scots are as near as damn it.

Edinburgh in Exile wrote:Well, I for one am thoroughly looking forward to Gregs well thought out and reasoned response to this news.

You cannot possibly agree with this if it happens.

Pleased for the players as it's a once in a lifetime opportunity and a great pay-out but it really does show what a sad little farce Gatland's sh!t show is.

A head coach who can split the squad and alienate players? Say no more fam!

Timmyspicyman wrote:Makes sense to call from the Welsh and Scots though. The Welsh are already in NZ and the Scots are as near as damn it.

Feels a bit of a coincidence that the welsh tourd NZ

I wonder if they will be in SA in 4 years

Chunks Baws wrote:Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

Not from any sane English or Irish fans. I would be disgruntled if anymore English got called up. Any England players not in the original squad need to be in Argentina and then resting till pre season. I don't see how this is any different to SCW and his mad tour.

I absolutely loved the subheader on the Wales Tonga report stating 'Wales earn their first ever victory at Eden park'. As if you might just read that and assume they'd beaten the ABs.

skidger wrote:

Chunks Baws wrote:Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

Not from any sane English or Irish fans. I would be disgruntled if anymore English got called up. Any England players not in the original squad need to be in Argentina and then resting till pre season. I don't see how this is any different to SCW and his mad tour.

Get what you're saying but some will be cheesed off if Gray and Russell get picked up over Launchbury and Ford for example. It has indeed become as farcical as SCW and his circus. Being picked on location rather than talent is a slap in the face to the players and fans.

Chunks Baws wrote:

skidger wrote:

Chunks Baws wrote:Apparently it's only Scots and Welsh that are getting picked and this was the plan all along. Toonie and McBryde were told weeks ago. A journalist on twitter reckons there will be a twitter meltdown when the names are announced. I'm assuming he means disgruntled English and Irish fans. If this has been the plan all along then I reckon it's unlikely any of our players will tell fat heed to shove it.

Not from any sane English or Irish fans. I would be disgruntled if anymore English got called up. Any England players not in the original squad need to be in Argentina and then resting till pre season. I don't see how this is any different to SCW and his mad tour.

Get what you're saying but some will be cheesed off if Gray and Russell get picked up over Launchbury and Ford for example. It has indeed become as farcical as SCW and his circus. Being picked on location rather than talent is a slap in the face to the players and fans.

I don't think so myself. For the original tour party then yes but that is long ago now. This is a piss take and meaningless selection. Launchbury for instance could do without this game and being told that he is Gatland's 7th choice lock so please have a game that we could really do without. Because that is what this game is. Personally I would hope Launchbury would tell Gatland where to go but he is far too polite.

Just watched NZ demolish Samoa with a display of speed, skill and rugby brains. I don't think there is a Lions player on tour better than his NZ counterpart (possibly Furlong ahead of Franks.)