Lions squad named
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Also, I've just notice the BBC's approach to AWJ's name in the team that I c&ped. I'm trying to work out if it's incompetence or a very solid wind-up.
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No Henderson is baffling. Making AWJ captain has handcuffed us to quite a degree.
Dropping Hogg and Watson is bs. Scapegoating by putting them into situations where they were always under the cash and had no opportunity to show what they do really well.
No Farrell is interesting. But pity Russell and Daly if they come off the bench just as Murray is on to slow things down.
Dropping Hogg and Watson is bs. Scapegoating by putting them into situations where they were always under the cash and had no opportunity to show what they do really well.
No Farrell is interesting. But pity Russell and Daly if they come off the bench just as Murray is on to slow things down.
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Murray coming on with Russell would negate and change in tactics.
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There is no gaurentee that they will come on, I'm pretty sure Daly is on the bench for his versatility and nothing else.Puja wrote:The bench is... odd to say the least. Do we entirely change tack when Russell and Daly come on? They seem like a very big departure from the starters.
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No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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Surprised at Beard over Henderson. Also surprised at the lack of George.
I don't get why van Der merve escapes the back 3 purge.
Whatever the plan is I hope it works or at least some rugby to break out.
I don't get why van Der merve escapes the back 3 purge.
Whatever the plan is I hope it works or at least some rugby to break out.
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Murray does have a very good wide pass. And given how narrow SA defend there are options around that, even more so if the 8 can feed the 9 from the base and you've got options outside. And Faf is often on the edge of their defence looking for the intercept and is a decent tackler, Reinach has pace but isn't quite the same option to initiate the scramble if you can play to the outside.Adder wrote:Murray coming on with Russell would negate and change in tactics.
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That said I'd still think it easier not to play against the blitz with the lack of cohesion, especially having brought Aki's hands into the middle of the park
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Add in Simmonds as backrow replacement and the front row replacements, and it looks like 60 mins of kick and chase and then 20mins of trying to run them off their feet..... which makes the 9. Price - 21. Murray selection a strange one.Puja wrote:The bench is... odd to say the least. Do we entirely change tack when Russell and Daly come on? They seem like a very big departure from the starters.
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There's surely got to be a COVID outbreak or something? I don't see them voluntarily dropping De Klerk and Du Toit from the XXIII entirely.Gloskarlos wrote:No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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Russell will come on for 7 minutes to try and turn around a 10 point deficit, only for his teammates to be taken aback by his alien tactics of "running" and "passing" so he never has any support and gets turned over. Russell will take the blame for the defeat - we should have had Farrell.Numbers wrote:There is no gaurentee that they will come on, I'm pretty sure Daly is on the bench for his versatility and nothing else.Puja wrote:The bench is... odd to say the least. Do we entirely change tack when Russell and Daly come on? They seem like a very big departure from the starters.
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Both went off injured....Puja wrote:There's surely got to be a COVID outbreak or something? I don't see them voluntarily dropping De Klerk and Du Toit from the XXIII entirely.Gloskarlos wrote:No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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Ah - information I was lacking. Thanks, that makes more sense.Mellsblue wrote:Both went off injured....Puja wrote:There's surely got to be a COVID outbreak or something? I don't see them voluntarily dropping De Klerk and Du Toit from the XXIII entirely.Gloskarlos wrote:No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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Oh dear, in pack I’d have gone for:Puja wrote:British and Irish Lions: Williams; Adams, Henshaw, Aki, Van der Merwe; Biggar, Price; Jones, Owens, Furlong, Itoje, A Wyn Jones (c), Lawes, Curry, Conan
Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Sinckler, Beard, Simmonds, Murray, Russell, Daly
Plan B looks remarkably like Plan A, only with more smash in the midfield.
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Jones, Cowan-Dickie, Furlong, Henderson, Itoje, Beirne, Watson, Falatau
With Vunipola, Owens, Sinckler, Lawes, Simmonds (glad to see he is there btw! ) on the bench,
For me none of A Wyn Jones, Curry or Conan have convincingly merited starting slots above better carrying options Gatland could have picked, but it’s Gatland's call and if he wins the 3rd test he can justifiably tell the sceptics like myself it’s the result that counts - if he loses sceptics (like myself

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Didn't they move him to 6 when De Jager came on in the second half on the weekend?Gloskarlos wrote:No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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Yes, as a result of injury, but i'm not sure he's started 6 before. SA normally have a few back row options. Picking an out and out lock to start there is a departure for them.Numbers wrote:Didn't they move him to 6 when De Jager came on in the second half on the weekend?Gloskarlos wrote:No Duane, No Faf.
Reinach ridiculously quick - Price needs to be on his mettle.
Mostert to 6 very interesting.
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If that’s the plan then the scrum halves look to be the wrong way around.Puja wrote:The bench is... odd to say the least. Do we entirely change tack when Russell and Daly come on? They seem like a very big departure from the starters.
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Sinckler charges have come to nothing, he is free to play.
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Gloskarlos wrote:Sinckler charges have come to nothing, he is free to play.
Good news. What an utter sham.
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No Faf is a huge loss for the Bokke.
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That was Gatland's approach with Hook too.Puja wrote:Russell will come on for 7 minutes to try and turn around a 10 point deficit, only for his teammates to be taken aback by his alien tactics of "running" and "passing" so he never has any support and gets turned over. Russell will take the blame for the defeat - we should have had Farrell.Numbers wrote:There is no gaurentee that they will come on, I'm pretty sure Daly is on the bench for his versatility and nothing else.Puja wrote:The bench is... odd to say the least. Do we entirely change tack when Russell and Daly come on? They seem like a very big departure from the starters.
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I'm no fan of Russell, but if Gatland brings him on to turn things round he needs at least 20 minutes.
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The Lions pack gets monstered last Saturday - so Gatland picks the same back 5 

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That's the last thing they'll be expecting.
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I’m a bit concerned that the Russel haters will have all the evidence they need. Russell works best with Hogg coming from full back to give a second play maker option when Russell sucks in men to him.
Without that he won’t have a lot of option but to give it to aki - smash or henshaw - smash or Dropsy Dally
That’s if Murray even passes him that ball
For me this Gatland covering his own arse so that he can turn around and say I played Russell it didn’t work.
I also doubt the tactics will change. Both Williams and Adams are great but the team will get suckered into playing the same 60-70 min game as last week, then Russell will come on and everyone will revert to the first 10.
Only way this works well is if Russel does a Munster nutmeg and scores the winning try through FIIDIM
Without that he won’t have a lot of option but to give it to aki - smash or henshaw - smash or Dropsy Dally
That’s if Murray even passes him that ball
For me this Gatland covering his own arse so that he can turn around and say I played Russell it didn’t work.
I also doubt the tactics will change. Both Williams and Adams are great but the team will get suckered into playing the same 60-70 min game as last week, then Russell will come on and everyone will revert to the first 10.
Only way this works well is if Russel does a Munster nutmeg and scores the winning try through FIIDIM
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The only people that benefited from the shitshow of the second test is the lawyers representing guys with concussion.
6 potential red cards in the second test and not one upheld citing.
This series has added a nice couple of zeros to the settlement and WR can’t even pretend they take player safety seriously
6 potential red cards in the second test and not one upheld citing.
This series has added a nice couple of zeros to the settlement and WR can’t even pretend they take player safety seriously