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morepork wrote:What the cunting FUCK is he doing?? Twitter. To Iran. Threatening them like a school boy. Is this 1983 with fucking social media??? What's he going to do next? Order the shooting down of another Iranian passenger jet via Facebook? So Israeli foreign policy is now American foreign policy, with our good friends the House of Saud smiling on the sidelines. What a fucking muppet.

What a fucking twat.

Are we there yet?

morepork wrote:A flat-track bully. What a surprise. Eventually, he will not be able to avoid responsibility for his actions. Just a serial bullshit artist that isn't half as bright as he thinks he is. Fuck me he is a thundercunt.He is making a grave mistake letting tech companies in on such deeply central intelligence practices. I am guessing this is the trade off for his liberal use of social media to disseminate clouds of bullshit dust. Hilldog tried it through main stream media but got knocked the fug out by social media twattery....it's a disturbingly volatile media metamorphosis in my opinion. Who knows what beast will emerge? Trump is a dinosaur and will be left behind, but by god is he being played at the moment.

It could be worse. We could live in a world without Zinc.

Officially put on notice. What a bellend. World police!

morepork wrote:What the cunting FUCK is he doing?? Twitter. To Iran. Threatening them like a school boy. Is this 1983 with fucking social media??? What's he going to do next? Order the shooting down of another Iranian passenger jet via Facebook? So Israeli foreign policy is now American foreign policy, with our good friends the House of Saud smiling on the sidelines. What a fucking muppet.

I know. Words fail me to describe the level of his incompetence. I almost feel sorry for his Secretary of State having to deal with that. Then I remember that he too is a cnut.

rowan wrote:Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

The way this is going, we may have to check how big single threads can get. Well into 4 figures and the wanker has only been in office for a fortnight.

Sandydragon wrote:

rowan wrote:Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

rowan wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

rowan wrote:Looks like Trump is following in Obama's footsteps in Yemen anyway, sadly

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ?CMP=fb_gu

DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Donny osmond wrote:

rowan wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:
DId you expect him to cease all military activities? This utter twat is not only winding up traditional enemies, he is also throwing his military weight about with countries like Mexico. Did anyone seriously expect him to act like a grown up when in power? I predict that Obamas first 4 years will have seen far less military activity than the next 4.

I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

rowan wrote:

Donny osmond wrote:

rowan wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody expected whoever got elected to cease all military activities. Or they'd certainly have been the first president in US history to have done so. In fact, I've said all along that it's a deep state running foreign policy and these circus clowns they trot out as presidents are little more than puppets. Nothing changed in that department when Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama took over from Bush; that's for sure. In saying that, Trump promised to discontinue the war in Syria (unlike his rival candidate), and so far he seems to be keeping to that - notwithstanding continued bombing of ISIS targets which claimed more civilian casualties this week. But this is more tragic news from Yemen, while civilians have also been killed by American bombing (supposedly targetting ISIS) in Iraq as well.

Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:

Donny osmond wrote: Its pretty disgraceful. If only those bombs had been Russian. Then it would all be fine.

Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

This news comes directly from the US military itself. They could be lying to make themselves look bad, of course But so far the only question is over the actual number of civilian casualties. Reports are suggesting they may be much higher than the military has so far conceded, and this is quite typical in Yemen, where initial reports of 10 or 12 civilian casualties often end up in the hundreds. Anyways, the US military is carrying out its own investigation as we speak...

Yeah, I mean fuck, the way to stop war in Syria is to wind up Iran. Nice fucking plan.

rowan wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:
Quite the opposite, in fact, and you know it. Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria. If they had done this it would have made headlines all over the world and Putin would have been declared the next Hitler (again).

On the other hand, had Obama done it, the Western media would have ignored it, like they ignored most of his war crimes as he proceeded to bomb 7 nations at a speed of three bombs per hour and 26,000 per annum, and remain at war through every single day of his two-term, eight year presidency.

But the bottom line is, America did this - yet again, so why even bring Russia into it ?

Is there proof of this? Besides something typed on a website?

This news comes directly from the US military itself. They could be lying to make themselves look bad, of course But so far the only question is over the actual number of civilian casualties. Reports are suggesting they may be much higher than the military has so far conceded, and this is quite typical in Yemen, where initial reports of 10 or 12 civilian casualties often end up in the hundreds. Anyways, the US military is carrying out its own investigation as we speak...

I was asking about your comment:

Russia were actually framed by the Western media for war crimes carried out by the US backed rebels/terrorists in Syria

I wonder if the Doomsday clock needs adjusting again?

The way this is going the next D-day is going to take place somewhere on the east coast of the states. The Mexicans will play the part of the Russians coming in from the other way and Britain will take Italys role.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446

rowan wrote:Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446

That is surprising. Haven't seen the story on other sites though.

Something isn't adding up. He selects an ambassador to Israel opposed to the two-state solution and then one of his advisers apparently phones a newspaper in Israel to criticise new settlements and say the tangerine dream is committed to the two-state solution?

Hmmm.

Smells of some kind of PR bollocks to me. After all the shit Trump has got about the 'Muslim ban' and comments to Iran, it seems like a softer approach to 'prove' he's empathetic to the Palestinians.

That said, I don't know if this story surfaced before or after Iran-Tweet-gate (that's for Mikey)

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446

That is surprising. Haven't seen the story on other sites though.

Something isn't adding up. He selects an ambassador to Israel opposed to the two-state solution and then one of his advisers apparently phones a newspaper in Israel to criticise new settlements and say the tangerine dream is committed to the two-state solution?

Hmmm.

Seems he is more concerned with the announcements of the illegal settlements than he is with the illegal settlements themselves. The Israeli government has a particularly juvenile mentality and likes to thumb its nose at the international community, especially in the wake of a rebuke such as that it received just recently when the UN adjudged their settlements illegal. But their gleeful announcements of defiance and outright rejection of international law are making Trump look even worse than he already did and getting in the way of his plans for the Middle East, whatever they may be. Meanwhile, a nudge wink has undoubtedly already been received by serial war criminal Bibi to carry on as usual - just a tad more quietly

rowan wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446

That is surprising. Haven't seen the story on other sites though.

Something isn't adding up. He selects an ambassador to Israel opposed to the two-state solution and then one of his advisers apparently phones a newspaper in Israel to criticise new settlements and say the tangerine dream is committed to the two-state solution?

Hmmm.

Seems he is more concerned with the announcements of the illegal settlements than he is with the illegal settlements themselves. The Israeli government has a particularly juvenile mentality and likes to thumb its nose at the international community, especially in the wake of a rebuke such as that it received just recently when the UN judged their settlements illegal. But their gleeful announcements of defiance and outright rejection of international law are making Trump look every worse than he already did and getting in the way of his plans for the Middle East, whatever they may be. Meanwhile, a nudge wink has undoubtedly already been received by serial war criminal Bibi to carry on as usual - just a tad more quietly

Yeah, the tone of some of the comments on that article seemed to be 'don't announce, just build'.

Absolutely depressing.

He has set in motion his support of settlements with his cabinet picks. His handlers are just trying to clean up mess that his twitter account shat in his bed. He is most definitely not in charge of this issue. It may be that he eventually recognises statements of intent made by property and media magnates insulated by expensive properties in the Upper West Side are no substitute for actually thought out foreign policy but by jebus, it will require an especially steep learning curve. Luckily he has his own personal army of fuck trophies and their spouses to negotiate this professional minefield. In the meantime Google and Facebook are burrowing ever deeper into the foundations of national security...

morepork wrote:A flat-track bully. What a surprise. Eventually, he will not be able to avoid responsibility for his actions. Just a serial bullshit artist that isn't half as bright as he thinks he is.

Yup. Just a commercially driven, self interested narcissist.
Perfect for the Yanks. They love that sh*t because they're thick and misunderstand their own history.
It makes them feel better about being a young nation that loves autocrats while they pretend that all people are created equal.
A concept born from a twat who was screwing his slaves and pretending he was liberal.

cashead wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post reports that Trump has (surprisingly) called upon Israel to halt its illegal new settlements in Palestine: http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polit ... nts-480446

That is surprising. Haven't seen the story on other sites though.

Something isn't adding up. He selects an ambassador to Israel opposed to the two-state solution and then one of his advisers apparently phones a newspaper in Israel to criticise new settlements and say the tangerine dream is committed to the two-state solution?

Hmmm.

If you just remember that he probably doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, it suddenly makes sense.

The man's an irrational narcissist, who expects everyone to call him the most smartest, cleverest, bigliest cool guy and that we love, love, love him, only to find that the majority of people, many of which are his own citizens, have just turned around and collectively said "ah, go fuck yourself, you orange shitbird."

I don't think anything has changed, and am pretty sure the silent majority remain firmly behind him because they don't actually give a toss about foreign policy and how much human carnage their nation plays a part in - most often in the lead role. But they'e not called the silent majority for nothing, and that's why many of us were taken unawares by the election result. It's the same here in Turkey. Living in downtown Istanbul you would think Erdogan was the most despised man in the country, when in reality the majority of Turks are actually behind him.