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[Doorzetbornandbred]

One of my fellow coaches at the club I coach at is doing his Level 2 atm. He appeared at the pub yesterday wanting help with some homework. Would anyone like to explain the difference between a cut out pass and a miss pass? Admittedly at the time we were all fairly zoidered up having "endured" Ireland France and then Wales Scotland...

[Puja]

I'll be honest, I didn't think there was a difference. Just commentators making up new words for the same thing.

Puja

[Digby]

The cider might suggest it was a cut-back, else that does seem odd. I suppose 'tis possible they've become more refined and a cut-out is now deemed a ball to a player running a line behind a decoy/blocking runner and the miss-pass is simply a ball that misses one or more players in the attacking line but gets passed in front of all the running options.

[old-n-slo-2nd-row]

the terms seem to be used interchangeably. A lot of this comes from league and the north/south terminology is different. I have sometimes heard it refer to the depth - a close to the body of the missed player being a cut out where the missed player being deeper just a miss pass. passing behind the dummy runner is often called a screen or blocker. I find if there is confusion in terms it's best not to use them, and explain what you want and then give it a name everyone understands. Strange homework for level 2.

[Banquo]

drift/slide, miss/cut, tomato/tomato

[Doorzetbornandbred]

You've all pretty much said what we all thought, its the same thing essentially. Anyway off to the pub for more zoider.

[I R Geech]

Exactly, it's bollocks like my pet hate term, the chop tackle. Otherwise known as... A tackle.

[old-n-slo-2nd-row]

drift/slide, miss/cut, tomato/tomato

It's not tomato it's tomato .. get it right

[BBD]

No idea where I got it from but I thought a chop tackle was one below the knee, whereas a tackle was from knee to shoulder

[Len]

Exactly, it's bollocks like my pet hate term, the chop tackle. Otherwise known as... A tackle.

In the business we call that the 'grass cutter'

Miss pass is a move. We used to run a play called miss 1 or miss 2. Worked well when we were 15.

A cut out to me is when you see a prop or hooker or lock in the back line and cut him out because he doesn't belong there.

Thats how I see it anyway.

[Mikey Brown]

You should go into coaching.

[BBD]

As in driving a coach

[Len]

You should go into coaching.

After I'm done going into your mum.

[Doorzetbornandbred]

Exactly, it's bollocks like my pet hate term, the chop tackle. Otherwise known as... A tackle.

In the business we call that the 'grass cutter'

Miss pass is a move. We used to run a play called miss 1 or miss 2. Worked well when we were 15.

A cut out to me is when you see a prop or hooker or lock in the back line and cut him out because he doesn't belong there.

Thats how I see it anyway.

Why doesn't he belong there?

[Epaminondas Pules]

One of my fellow coaches at the club I coach at is doing his Level 2 atm. He appeared at the pub yesterday wanting help with some homework. Would anyone like to explain the difference between a cut out pass and a miss pass? Admittedly at the time we were all fairly zoidered up having "endured" Ireland France and then Wales Scotland...

Cut out is supposed to be in front of the player being cut out of the move. Miss pass just misses a player (or more), but can be in front or behind.

[Banquo]

One of my fellow coaches at the club I coach at is doing his Level 2 atm. He appeared at the pub yesterday wanting help with some homework. Would anyone like to explain the difference between a cut out pass and a miss pass? Admittedly at the time we were all fairly zoidered up having "endured" Ireland France and then Wales Scotland...

Cut out is supposed to be in front of the player being cut out of the move. Miss pass just misses a player (or more), but can be in front or behind.

miss pass covered both in my time, cut out is just league vernacular as above.

[Epaminondas Pules]

One of my fellow coaches at the club I coach at is doing his Level 2 atm. He appeared at the pub yesterday wanting help with some homework. Would anyone like to explain the difference between a cut out pass and a miss pass? Admittedly at the time we were all fairly zoidered up having "endured" Ireland France and then Wales Scotland...

Cut out is supposed to be in front of the player being cut out of the move. Miss pass just misses a player (or more), but can be in front or behind.

miss pass covered both in my time, cut out is just league vernacular as above.

Agreed, but it's the answer to the homework question

[Mellsblue]

So, the answer is they're both the same but some **** is trying to be clever for the sake of it.