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Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:10 pm
by Sandydragon
... Howley is the Lions attack coach.

Clearly rewarded for the sterling work in crafting such an unstoppable attacking platform during recent internationals.

On the bright side, it means we get rid of him for a few months during whatever tour we have planned to coincide with the Lions.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:34 pm
by stud muffin
I'm assuming it because Townsend said no. It cant be for what he brings to the party!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38172413

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:41 pm
by Sandydragon
stud muffin wrote:I'm assuming it because Townsend said no. It cant be for what he brings to the party!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38172413

Aye. Qualifications:

Have a pulse. Check.
No other options. Check.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:45 pm
by stud muffin
Joe Schmidt has also declined apparently. Funny that no one wants to be tarred with a certain brush except Howler.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:19 pm
by whatisthejava
And Eddie Jones ruled himself out

Perhaps I'm wearing a tin. foil hat but I reckon the other coaches told him to take a hike as its Gatland and he much be a prick and no matter what happens the third test will be Wales + random Irish + random English against

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:28 pm
by Lizard
Howley? Attack?

No. Does not compute.

Are you sure?

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:30 pm
by wayneha50
Unbelievable but I'm impressed at least other coaches seem to prioritise their own nations over the Lions, shame we cannot have coaches like this*

*or indeed good ones

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:32 pm
by Sandydragon
wayneha50 wrote:Unbelievable but I'm impressed at least other coaches seem to prioritise their own nations over the Lions, shame we cannot have coaches like this*

*or indeed good ones
I suspect that the main reason for the others not taking part is the desire to prioritise the day job. Fair play.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:07 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
stud muffin wrote:Joe Schmidt has also declined apparently. Funny that no one wants to be tarred with a certain brush except Howler.
There's no way that Schmidt would accept a position as Gatland's underling. Especially on a tour where we get schooled by NZ.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:38 pm
by Numbers
So who was the attack coach last time round, oh yeah..

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:53 pm
by morepork
Is WG poisonous or what's the story?

No one wants to work with David Brent.


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Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:59 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
He's poisonous. I can't imagine any chance that Schmidt would accept a job as an underling to Gatland. If the Lions management had wanted him then they should have appointed him head coach and I expect he'd have thought about it and the IRFU would have been happy enough. Personally I don't think Schmidt is a good fit for the Lions because he likes people to get his method so tends to be loyal to those who he knows.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:27 pm
by OptimisticJock
Sandydragon wrote:
wayneha50 wrote:Unbelievable but I'm impressed at least other coaches seem to prioritise their own nations over the Lions, shame we cannot have coaches like this*

*or indeed good ones
I suspect that the main reason for the others not taking part is the desire to prioritise the day job. Fair play.
Be pretty poor form from Toonie and the SRU if he buggered off to get pumped from the ABs with Gatland after not giving VC a new contract and Toonie just taking up the post.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:11 am
by Sandydragon
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:He's poisonous. I can't imagine any chance that Schmidt would accept a job as an underling to Gatland. If the Lions management had wanted him then they should have appointed him head coach and I expect he'd have thought about it and the IRFU would have been happy enough. Personally I don't think Schmidt is a good fit for the Lions because he likes people to get his method so tends to be loyal to those who he knows.
I saw that view expressed elsewhere, with Gatland and Eddie Jones highlighted for their simplistic approach to rugby (vs Schmidt) as the simpler game plan was easier to impelemt in a shorter timeframe with a mix of players who weren't used to playing together.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:42 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Sandydragon wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:He's poisonous. I can't imagine any chance that Schmidt would accept a job as an underling to Gatland. If the Lions management had wanted him then they should have appointed him head coach and I expect he'd have thought about it and the IRFU would have been happy enough. Personally I don't think Schmidt is a good fit for the Lions because he likes people to get his method so tends to be loyal to those who he knows.
I saw that view expressed elsewhere, with Gatland and Eddie Jones highlighted for their simplistic approach to rugby (vs Schmidt) as the simpler game plan was easier to impelemt in a shorter timeframe with a mix of players who weren't used to playing together.
I wouldn't lump Jones and Gatland together. Jones quickly assesses his players and finds a gameplan to fit them but his plan varies according to his players.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:07 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:He's poisonous. I can't imagine any chance that Schmidt would accept a job as an underling to Gatland. If the Lions management had wanted him then they should have appointed him head coach and I expect he'd have thought about it and the IRFU would have been happy enough. Personally I don't think Schmidt is a good fit for the Lions because he likes people to get his method so tends to be loyal to those who he knows.
I saw that view expressed elsewhere, with Gatland and Eddie Jones highlighted for their simplistic approach to rugby (vs Schmidt) as the simpler game plan was easier to impelemt in a shorter timeframe with a mix of players who weren't used to playing together.
I wouldn't lump Jones and Gatland together. Jones quickly assesses his players and finds a gameplan to fit them but his plan varies according to his players.
Plan.....varies?..... sorry, not familiar with that combination of words.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:01 pm
by Ross. S
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Plan.....varies?..... sorry, not familiar with that combination of words.
Its witchcraft, being spreaad by the filthy bastards in England and Ireland. It starded from the dark side (All Blacks).

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:11 pm
by bruce
Has it been confirmed yet who will be stand in for Wales?

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:56 pm
by Sandydragon
McBride probably.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:48 am
by ALunpg
We should embrace this and suggest they give Rob an early start after xmas...I mean we should be sharing at this time of year ...
And whilst he is away .... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:03 pm
by stud muffin
Howley, Farrell and Borthwick join coaching staff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38233542

Howley should be the tea boy!! It's a little underwhelming at the moment.

Re: Oh feck me...

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:07 pm
by stud muffin
Neil Jenkins, Wales' top points-scorer, is likely to be a kicking specialist.
The cupboard will be bare this year!!

I would have to assume Edwards will become interim coach over McBride, but the WRU will probably appoint them both in some dual management "cr@p" approach