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Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:45 am
by canta_brian
Just interested in people's thought on RT (as they have rebranded themselves). They are a kremlin funded news source that broadcast in English, Arabic and Spanish. On the basis that they are not looking to inform their own citizens (I don't think they have a Russian service) what is their purpose?

They have a presence on the news TV of lots of western countries. I don't know how much revenue they could make from advertising on these sites. Is it a purely commercial endeavour or are they simply looking to put their point of view across to counter the opinion of western media?

There is certainly plenty of critisism of their journalistic rigour..

"For much of 2015, graduate students at Columbia School of Journalism took part in the RT Watch project, monitoring RT's (US) output. Casey Michel, who worked on the project, wrote "RT ignores the inherent traits of journalism—checking sources, relaying facts, attempting honest reportage" and "you’ll find 'experts' lacking in expertise, conspiracy theories without backing, and, from time to time, outright fabrication for the sake of pushing a pro-Kremlin line".[171][172] The results were compiled in a Tumblr blog.[173]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) (I am well aware that wikipedia is open to manipulation)

I simply wonder if people here actually believe that RT makes much attempt to portray the world in a way that is anything but pro-russian and pro-Putin in particular.

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:23 am
by rowan
canta_brian wrote:Just interested in people's thought on RT (as they have rebranded themselves). They are a kremlin funded news source that broadcast in English, Arabic and Spanish. On the basis that they are not looking to inform their own citizens (I don't think they have a Russian service) what is their purpose?

They have a presence on the news TV of lots of western countries. I don't know how much revenue they could make from advertising on these sites. Is it a purely commercial endeavour or are they simply looking to put their point of view across to counter the opinion of western media?

There is certainly plenty of critisism of their journalistic rigour..

"For much of 2015, graduate students at Columbia School of Journalism took part in the RT Watch project, monitoring RT's (US) output. Casey Michel, who worked on the project, wrote "RT ignores the inherent traits of journalism—checking sources, relaying facts, attempting honest reportage" and "you’ll find 'experts' lacking in expertise, conspiracy theories without backing, and, from time to time, outright fabrication for the sake of pushing a pro-Kremlin line".[171][172] The results were compiled in a Tumblr blog.[173]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) (I am well aware that wikipedia is open to manipulation)

I simply wonder if people here actually believe that RT makes much attempt to portray the world in a way that is anything but pro-russian and pro-Putin in particular.
Deteriorated horribly in recent years. Almost as bad as Fox News, BBC and the rest of the Western mainstream media.

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:43 am
by Sandydragon
rowan wrote:
canta_brian wrote:Just interested in people's thought on RT (as they have rebranded themselves). They are a kremlin funded news source that broadcast in English, Arabic and Spanish. On the basis that they are not looking to inform their own citizens (I don't think they have a Russian service) what is their purpose?

They have a presence on the news TV of lots of western countries. I don't know how much revenue they could make from advertising on these sites. Is it a purely commercial endeavour or are they simply looking to put their point of view across to counter the opinion of western media?

There is certainly plenty of critisism of their journalistic rigour..

"For much of 2015, graduate students at Columbia School of Journalism took part in the RT Watch project, monitoring RT's (US) output. Casey Michel, who worked on the project, wrote "RT ignores the inherent traits of journalism—checking sources, relaying facts, attempting honest reportage" and "you’ll find 'experts' lacking in expertise, conspiracy theories without backing, and, from time to time, outright fabrication for the sake of pushing a pro-Kremlin line".[171][172] The results were compiled in a Tumblr blog.[173]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) (I am well aware that wikipedia is open to manipulation)

I simply wonder if people here actually believe that RT makes much attempt to portray the world in a way that is anything but pro-russian and pro-Putin in particular.
Deteriorated horribly in recent years. Almost as bad as Fox News, BBC and the rest of the Western mainstream media.
I'll give you Fox News, but as for the rest, sorry no.

Re: RE: Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:48 am
by canta_brian
rowan wrote:
canta_brian wrote:Just interested in people's thought on RT (as they have rebranded themselves). They are a kremlin funded news source that broadcast in English, Arabic and Spanish. On the basis that they are not looking to inform their own citizens (I don't think they have a Russian service) what is their purpose?

They have a presence on the news TV of lots of western countries. I don't know how much revenue they could make from advertising on these sites. Is it a purely commercial endeavour or are they simply looking to put their point of view across to counter the opinion of western media?

There is certainly plenty of critisism of their journalistic rigour..

"For much of 2015, graduate students at Columbia School of Journalism took part in the RT Watch project, monitoring RT's (US) output. Casey Michel, who worked on the project, wrote "RT ignores the inherent traits of journalism—checking sources, relaying facts, attempting honest reportage" and "you’ll find 'experts' lacking in expertise, conspiracy theories without backing, and, from time to time, outright fabrication for the sake of pushing a pro-Kremlin line".[171][172] The results were compiled in a Tumblr blog.[173]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) (I am well aware that wikipedia is open to manipulation)

I simply wonder if people here actually believe that RT makes much attempt to portray the world in a way that is anything but pro-russian and pro-Putin in particular.
Deteriorated horribly in recent years. Almost as bad as Fox News, BBC and the rest of the Western mainstream media.
You seem happy enough to quote them when their agenda correlates with yours.

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:51 am
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:
rowan wrote:
canta_brian wrote:Just interested in people's thought on RT (as they have rebranded themselves). They are a kremlin funded news source that broadcast in English, Arabic and Spanish. On the basis that they are not looking to inform their own citizens (I don't think they have a Russian service) what is their purpose?

They have a presence on the news TV of lots of western countries. I don't know how much revenue they could make from advertising on these sites. Is it a purely commercial endeavour or are they simply looking to put their point of view across to counter the opinion of western media?

There is certainly plenty of critisism of their journalistic rigour..

"For much of 2015, graduate students at Columbia School of Journalism took part in the RT Watch project, monitoring RT's (US) output. Casey Michel, who worked on the project, wrote "RT ignores the inherent traits of journalism—checking sources, relaying facts, attempting honest reportage" and "you’ll find 'experts' lacking in expertise, conspiracy theories without backing, and, from time to time, outright fabrication for the sake of pushing a pro-Kremlin line".[171][172] The results were compiled in a Tumblr blog.[173]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) (I am well aware that wikipedia is open to manipulation)

I simply wonder if people here actually believe that RT makes much attempt to portray the world in a way that is anything but pro-russian and pro-Putin in particular.
Deteriorated horribly in recent years. Almost as bad as Fox News, BBC and the rest of the Western mainstream media.
I'll give you Fox News, but as for the rest, sorry no.
I'd be willing to hand over the Daily Mail too, pretty much to anybody

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:08 pm
by Sandydragon
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
rowan wrote:
Deteriorated horribly in recent years. Almost as bad as Fox News, BBC and the rest of the Western mainstream media.
I'll give you Fox News, but as for the rest, sorry no.
I'd be willing to hand over the Daily Mail too, pretty much to anybody
Oh hell yes. Add any tabloid really.

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:45 pm
by cashead
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
I'll give you Fox News, but as for the rest, sorry no.
I'd be willing to hand over the Daily Mail too, pretty much to anybody
Oh hell yes. Add any tabloid really.
The Sun is particularly vile.

Re: Russia Today = Fake News?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:13 pm
by Sandydragon
cashead wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Digby wrote:
I'd be willing to hand over the Daily Mail too, pretty much to anybody
Oh hell yes. Add any tabloid really.
The Sun is particularly vile.
Yup. And don't you just love the way they switch political allegiance so they can support the winning side? Pathetic.