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Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:56 pm
by Lizard
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/ar ... d=11841716

TL;DR - They will play Gatball because Gatland knows nothing else. We don't care if Barrett is regarded as a shit goal kicker. Performnance under pressure is key.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:23 am
by Mellsblue
Sounds like he's shitting himself. Gatlands a NZRU plant, isn't he. Just admit it.

Also, what's with this 'a la' business. Are you luddites trying some cultural enlightenment​. What's next, repatriating MP to teach 'Liberal Disgust' seminars.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:29 am
by Mikey Brown
Lizard wrote:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/ar ... d=11841716

TL;DR - They will play Gatball because Gatland knows nothing else. We don't care if Barrett is regarded as a shit goal kicker. Performnance under pressure is key.
It's amazing how many seem to think getting the last few percent of goal-kicking at the expense of try scoring/creating is a good trade-off.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:42 am
by Lizard
Mellsblue wrote:Sounds like he's shitting himself. Gatlands a NZRU plant, isn't he. Just admit it.
Gatland, Cotter, Schmidt, Deans - all have done sterling work, although Schmidt seems to have "gone native" lately.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:12 am
by cashead
Schmidt and Deans getting at least one over the All Blacks just helps their cover.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:14 am
by Adder
How many "Scottish qualified" in the current ABs set-up?( Scottish parent-Grandparent)

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Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:46 am
by Lizard
There's certainly none born in Scotland. (The last Scottish-born All Black was Laurie Haig, whose last test was in 1954, in Edinburgh fittingly.)

I'm not aware of any All Blacks with recent Scots heritage but it wouldn't surprise me if there are some Scottish grannies in there somewhere. Unsurprisingly, the NZRU limit themselves to publishing the birthplace of players only, and not their ancestors. It's far more likely that the SRU have a dossier of that info!

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:35 am
by cashead
There are plenty of All Blacks that have Scottish ancestry, obvious ones are the likes of Richie McCaw or Angus MacDonald, And then we have some unexpected ones like Sonny Bill Williams, on his mum's side.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:18 am
by Lizard
I thought the McCaws were Norn Irish?

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:39 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
You pick players who can do the job you want them to do, who play the style of game you want to play.
If only more selectors took that approach.
I've never seen him do anything else other than that. I guess we need to be prepared for what we normally get and prepare for something different as well. All come out when he selects his test team

"He's done most of his coaching up north got a particular style he likes which works for him up there using big ball carriers up front, big midfielders to carry.
He's going to rip us a new one.

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:48 am
by Adder
The spirit in which the question asked is : are there more Scottish qualified All Blacks than there are scottish qualified Lions?

Obviously, I'm too lazy to do the research.

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Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:39 pm
by Peat
Adder wrote:The spirit in which the question asked is : are there more Scottish qualified All Blacks than there are scottish qualified Lions?

Obviously, I'm too lazy to do the research.

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To answer that question properly you'd need to know how many of the English/Welsh/Irish players had Scottish grannies as well surely?

Re: RE: Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:14 pm
by Adder
Peat wrote:
Adder wrote:The spirit in which the question asked is : are there more Scottish qualified All Blacks than there are scottish qualified Lions?

Obviously, I'm too lazy to do the research.

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To answer that question properly you'd need to know how many of the English/Welsh/Irish players had Scottish grannies as well surely?
I realised that later on my commute...

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Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:55 am
by Mellsblue
Are we saying that Scottish ladies of a certain generation were of loose morals?

Re: Steve Hansen's 5c worth

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:30 pm
by kk67
Mellsblue wrote:Are we saying that Scottish ladies of a certain generation were of loose morals?
No,.....English men of a certain generation had no morality when it came to transporting people to the other side of the world.