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v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:23 am
by Mellsblue
Team:

Halfpenny; Nowell, Payne, Henshaw, Daly; Biggar, Webb; McGrath, Owens (captain), Cole, Itoje, Lawes, Haskell, Tipuric, Stander

Replacements: Best, Marler, Sinckler, Henderson, O'Mahony, Laidlaw, Sexton, L Williams


How much captaincy experience does Owens have?

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:15 am
by bruce
Last 2 or 3 seasons as Scarlets captain.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:49 am
by zer0
Marginal calls aside, the Blues will be fielding their best available side.

1. Tu'ungafasi
2. Parsons
3. Faumuina
4. Cowley-Tuioti
5. Scrafton
6. A. Ioane
7. Gibson
8. Luatua
9. Pulu
10. Perofeta
11. R. Ioane
12. SBW/Faiane
13. Moala
14. Duffy
15. Collins

16. Faiva
17. Hodgman
18. Mafileo
19. Tuipulotu
20. K Pryor
21. Nock
22. West
23. Faiane/Nanai

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:09 am
by cashead
Not sure if Perofeta qualifies as being in the "best side," seeing as how he's only just played, like, 1 game. Nanai would also be on the wing with Ioane moving over to 13 to pair SBW.

Of course, I wonder how SBW will look on Wednesday, coming off a concussion-forced lay-off plus being right smack in the middle of Ramadan.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:34 am
by Mellsblue
bruce wrote:Last 2 or 3 seasons as Scarlets captain.
Cheers. Clearly the best man for the job, after Haskell obviously. I assume he turned it down to concentrate on dominating the opposition.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:21 am
by Digby
cashead wrote:Not sure if Perofeta qualifies as being in the "best side," seeing as how he's only just played, like, 1 game. Nanai would also be on the wing with Ioane moving over to 13 to pair SBW.

Of course, I wonder how SBW will look on Wednesday, coming off a concussion-forced lay-off plus being right smack in the middle of Ramadan.
No obligation on SBW to observe Ramadan given his career. Has he confirmed he is observing the obligations in full? One would think it'd be quite dangerous to go 10 hours fasting and taking on no fluids and then cramming both food and drink just 2-3 hours before kick-off

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:36 am
by cashead
Digby wrote:
cashead wrote:Not sure if Perofeta qualifies as being in the "best side," seeing as how he's only just played, like, 1 game. Nanai would also be on the wing with Ioane moving over to 13 to pair SBW.

Of course, I wonder how SBW will look on Wednesday, coming off a concussion-forced lay-off plus being right smack in the middle of Ramadan.
No obligation on SBW to observe Ramadan given his career. Has he confirmed he is observing the obligations in full? One would think it'd be quite dangerous to go 10 hours fasting and taking on no fluids and then cramming both food and drink just 2-3 hours before kick-off
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/ar ... d=11870002

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:44 am
by Digby
He's an odd chap

Re: v Blues

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:49 pm
by Timbo
Just scanning through that Blues 23, they're a big, athletic team aren't they. Don't see much of a physical edge for the Lions anywhere.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:33 am
by Spy
Timbo wrote:Just scanning through that Blues 23, they're a big, athletic team aren't they. Don't see much of a physical edge for the Lions anywhere.
Blues teams generally manage to underwhelm physically, and it's cold and wet in Auckland at the moment. We like it fast and loose.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:56 am
by ALunpg
What is the pitch condition/ weather expected at Eden Park for the match .?

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:01 am
by Lizard
The pitch will be fine. Eden Park's turf drains very well. There could well be some rain but probably only showers, certainly some dew. You can expect maybe 11-13 degrees. That said, Auckland is surrounded by oceans and fucking anything can happen at any time, weather wise.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:18 am
by jared_7
The last few days here it has been a mixture of sunshine and the odd spot of rain, the Eden Park pitch is the best around and its not too cold.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:59 am
by Spy
You home for the Lions, Jared?

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Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:00 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Not sure whether this or the Maori represent our best chance of another win. The Blues do have an incredible ability to implode.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:01 pm
by Lizard
I'm not sure about that. The Blues are the worst NZ Super team this season but they will be near full-strength. The Highlanders, Hurricanes and Chiefs will be without their All Blacks so might be a better chance.

I expect that the Maori side selected will be as strong as possible (a la 2005).

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:47 pm
by stud muffin
Howley has been interviewed saying he doesn't understand what "Warrenball" is and where it's come from!! Holy cr@p we're so screwed!

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:12 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
stud muffin wrote:Howley has been interviewed saying he doesn't understand what "Warrenball" is and where it's come from!! Holy cr@p we're so screwed!
He's still trying to work out what Howleyball is. Let's not expect too much too soon.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:05 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Lizard wrote:I'm not sure about that. The Blues are the worst NZ Super team this season but they will be near full-strength. The Highlanders, Hurricanes and Chiefs will be without their All Blacks so might be a better chance.

I expect that the Maori side selected will be as strong as possible (a la 2005).
We're playing the highlanders, Chiefs and Canes midweek so whilst they may be without their ABs we're going to be running our B side. Actually with Gatland's selectorial abilities that may be better players but they'll still be playing his gameplan and they will be even less suited to it.

Re: RE: Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:18 pm
by canta_brian
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Lizard wrote:I'm not sure about that. The Blues are the worst NZ Super team this season but they will be near full-strength. The Highlanders, Hurricanes and Chiefs will be without their All Blacks so might be a better chance.

I expect that the Maori side selected will be as strong as possible (a la 2005).
We're playing the highlanders, Chiefs and Canes midweek so whilst they may be without their ABs we're going to be running our B side. Actually with Gatland's selectorial abilities that may be better players but they'll still be playing his gameplan and they will be even less suited to it.
Sounds like you've written the loins off already Eug. What would constitute a successful tour for you?

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 pm
by J Dory
Ok, predictions time, lets have 'em.

Blues by 15.

Re: RE: Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:57 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
canta_brian wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Lizard wrote:I'm not sure about that. The Blues are the worst NZ Super team this season but they will be near full-strength. The Highlanders, Hurricanes and Chiefs will be without their All Blacks so might be a better chance.

I expect that the Maori side selected will be as strong as possible (a la 2005).
We're playing the highlanders, Chiefs and Canes midweek so whilst they may be without their ABs we're going to be running our B side. Actually with Gatland's selectorial abilities that may be better players but they'll still be playing his gameplan and they will be even less suited to it.
Sounds like you've written the loins off already Eug. What would constitute a successful tour for you?
A succesful tour would be winning the series. A tour in which we win a live Test would be more successful than I remotely expect. One in which we win 2 more games would be not as disastrous as I fear.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:58 pm
by morepork
Blues will be 2 points behind at 80, will win a penalty in front of the posts. They opt to kick for touch, but put it out over the in goal.

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:34 pm
by Puja
This is a much better side than Saturday's and I still suspect that the Kiwis are being too smug over their bottom team versus some of our best internationals (and Haskell). Lions by 8.

Puja

Re: v Blues

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:35 pm
by jared_7
Spy wrote:You home for the Lions, Jared?

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Just one week for family reasons, unfortunately, mate. Will see the Blues and Crusaders games, hopefully at least one win in there.