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Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:48 am
by Big D
So seeing as in all likelihood Scottish players have finished their 2016/17 season what are the hopes for next year?

Scotland:
- 2 out of 3 wins in the Autumn. Maybe blood a handful of new/newish caps
- 3 wins in the 6N must be the new baseline expectation.
- Clean sweep on the summer tour to North America.

Glasgow:
- Making the play-offs after that it becomes a lottery.
- Finish at least second in the European group. The groups are so even now it is hard to predict how many points will be needed etc.
- Continue to see some young players involved.

Edinburgh:
- Top 7 has to be the target.
- To be honest I an not fussed about the diddy cup. But coming second in that group as a minimum should be achievable. I would definitely be sending the kids to Russia for that game though
- Continue to see some young players involved and if anything increase the number seeing game time with the likes of Burleigh and MacKenzie starting to be used less.

Sevens:
Tough season ahead with a lot of changes. I think JD is a good coach but bettering last years 7th will be tough.
- Making a cup QF in one of the events before Christmas.
- Gain 80 points over the season. That's the equivalent of 9th in every competition.
- Finish in the top 9 in the overall rankings.

Re: RE: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:06 am
by Adder
Big D wrote:So seeing as in all likelihood Scottish players have finished their 2016/17 season what are the hopes for next year?

Scotland:
- 2 out of 3 wins in the Autumn. Maybe blood a handful of new/newish caps
- 3 wins in the 6N must be the new baseline expectation.
- Clean sweep on the summer tour to North America.

Glasgow:
- Making the play-offs after that it becomes a lottery.
- Finish at least second in the European group. The groups are so even now it is hard to predict how many points will be needed etc.
- Continue to see some young players involved.

Edinburgh:
- Top 7 has to be the target.
- To be honest I an not fussed about the diddy cup. But coming second in that group as a minimum should be achievable. I would definitely be sending the kids to Russia for that game though
- Continue to see some young players involved and if anything increase the number seeing game time with the likes of Burleigh and MacKenzie starting to be used less.

Sevens:
Tough season ahead with a lot of changes. I think JD is a good coach but bettering last years 7th will be tough.
- Making a cup QF in one of the events before Christmas.
- Gain 80 points over the season. That's the equivalent of 9th in every competition.
- Finish in the top 9 in the overall rankings.
Russian teams have taken a few scalps in the last few years. Worcester and Brives ...

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Re: RE: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:19 am
by Big D
Adder wrote:
Big D wrote:So seeing as in all likelihood Scottish players have finished their 2016/17 season what are the hopes for next year?

Scotland:
- 2 out of 3 wins in the Autumn. Maybe blood a handful of new/newish caps
- 3 wins in the 6N must be the new baseline expectation.
- Clean sweep on the summer tour to North America.

Glasgow:
- Making the play-offs after that it becomes a lottery.
- Finish at least second in the European group. The groups are so even now it is hard to predict how many points will be needed etc.
- Continue to see some young players involved.

Edinburgh:
- Top 7 has to be the target.
- To be honest I an not fussed about the diddy cup. But coming second in that group as a minimum should be achievable. I would definitely be sending the kids to Russia for that game though
- Continue to see some young players involved and if anything increase the number seeing game time with the likes of Burleigh and MacKenzie starting to be used less.

Sevens:
Tough season ahead with a lot of changes. I think JD is a good coach but bettering last years 7th will be tough.
- Making a cup QF in one of the events before Christmas.
- Gain 80 points over the season. That's the equivalent of 9th in every competition.
- Finish in the top 9 in the overall rankings.
Russian teams have taken a few scalps in the last few years. Worcester and Brives ...

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They have, I guess for me it just depends on how the fixtures fall and where exactly Krasny play but I would not be sending some of the older players over like Ford, Nel, Dicko if fit etc. The league and trying to get into the top 7 should be priority IMO. Something similar to the side that went to Romania with a tweak or 5 in the back line.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:49 am
by whatisthejava
Mostly the same but

Glasgow top 4
Ed top 6

Scotland 3 wins minimum but aim for 4

if we have a fit squad we should really be looking at beating Wales away, France at home, italy away and then that leaves one of England at home or Ireland away

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:58 pm
by Cameo
I would add for the Sevens making one final. Is tough and a bit of a lottery but Id much prefer them to do really well in a few and struggle in others than just become solid. Creates more excitement and a buzz

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:55 pm
by BigAl
Win the 6N....

Seriously. Beat England and/or France at home. Beat Italy, Ireland away. Put 40 past Wales.....

Finish on 4 wins out of 5.

Not fussed about the slam

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:17 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
A girlfriend

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:59 pm
by sharvey44
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:A girlfriend
Woah. Keep it realistic. :lol:

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:32 pm
by Mikey Brown
Ha. A new era perhaps? Yeah. Good one.

Russell/Hogg to carry on from last year as if the Lions never happened. Jones/Bennet to walk unaided. Dunbar to remember how to attack, as he is currently far too good a defender to leave out. Our key tight 5 players to stay fit. That'd be a nice start. Then I reckon we might actually win something.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:02 pm
by General Zod
That they don't produce yet another kit.

Oh, er, http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4499599

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:16 pm
by hp18
General Zod wrote:That they don't produce yet another kit.

Oh, er, http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4499599
7s is decent. The rest ain't a patch on the last few editions. However if it's a choice between keeping a good jersey and releasing a new one which folk will buy regardless of appearance, I'll take the latter every time.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:35 pm
by Mikey Brown
Mikey Brown wrote:Ha. A new era perhaps? Yeah. Good one.

Russell/Hogg to carry on from last year as if the Lions never happened. Jones/Bennet to walk unaided. Dunbar to remember how to attack, as he is currently far too good a defender to leave out. Our key tight 5 players to stay fit. That'd be a nice start. Then I reckon we might actually win something.
Going pretty well so far.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:52 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
General Zod wrote:That they don't produce yet another kit.

Oh, er, http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-uni ... -1-4499599
That's absolutely f*cking honking.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:54 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Would love to see a 'modern' version of that away strip we had in the early/mid 00's - solid white with subtle light blue/navy stripes and a navy collar.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:32 pm
by hp18
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Would love to see a 'modern' version of that away strip we had in the early/mid 00's - solid white with subtle light blue/navy stripes and a navy collar.
Are you being serious?

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:31 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
hp18 wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Would love to see a 'modern' version of that away strip we had in the early/mid 00's - solid white with subtle light blue/navy stripes and a navy collar.
Are you being serious?
As far as away strips go? Considering we've had orange, purple, that horrible white/blue/yellow number, grey and a host of crappy ones I'm going to go with yes.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:03 pm
by hp18
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
hp18 wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Would love to see a 'modern' version of that away strip we had in the early/mid 00's - solid white with subtle light blue/navy stripes and a navy collar.
Are you being serious?
As far as away strips go? Considering we've had orange, purple, that horrible white/blue/yellow number, grey and a host of crappy ones I'm going to go with yes.
I'm somewhat at a loss here....

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:42 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
I'm referring to this one:

http://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/ekmps ... 1[ekm].jpg

This is the closest we've got in modern times which is lovely IMO.

Image

I don't see what you find so appalling about the style?

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:46 am
by AL.
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I'm referring to this one:

http://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/ekmps ... 1[ekm].jpg

This is the closest we've got in modern times which is lovely IMO.

Image

I don't see what you find so appalling about the style?
That is a choice web site, bit pricey though! £80 for the orange monstrosity from the 90's, I remember that from the AB match, didnt Cammy Mather man shame big Jonah (that may be over egging it a wee bit).

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:56 am
by Cameo
AL. wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I'm referring to this one:

http://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/ekmps ... 1[ekm].jpg

This is the closest we've got in modern times which is lovely IMO.

Image

I don't see what you find so appalling about the style?
That is a choice web site, bit pricey though! £80 for the orange monstrosity from the 90's, I remember that from the AB match, didnt Cammy Mather man shame big Jonah (that may be over egging it a wee bit).
Cammy Murray not Mather I think you mean. I finished watching that match convinced he was going on to become an all time great winger!

I liked the orange shirt too though I think the white one is the best

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:49 pm
by AL.
Thats it Murray, I remember him being rapid.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:00 pm
by Big D
Cameo wrote:
AL. wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I'm referring to this one:

http://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/ekmps ... 1[ekm].jpg

This is the closest we've got in modern times which is lovely IMO.

Image

I don't see what you find so appalling about the style?
That is a choice web site, bit pricey though! £80 for the orange monstrosity from the 90's, I remember that from the AB match, didnt Cammy Mather man shame big Jonah (that may be over egging it a wee bit).
Cammy Murray not Mather I think you mean. I finished watching that match convinced he was going on to become an all time great winger!

I liked the orange shirt too though I think the white one is the best
Part of his problem was that he believed he already was a world class winger and his off field beliefs mostly didn't match his training or match day performances.

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:29 pm
by Cameo
Really, I had never heard of any attitude problems from him (not that I would have necessarilly). I just thought in the end he wasnt that quick or that big

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:08 pm
by Tobylerone
Will NZ ever forgive us for Hadden`s pragmatic but feart team selection.?
Is Murrayfield always to be just an AB "Second XV" fixture*.?

* Don`t think a visit to Eden Park is marked up on the SRU calender. (be delighted to hear otherwise)

Re: Hopes and Expectations for 2017/18

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:25 am
by Big D
Tobylerone wrote:Will NZ ever forgive us for Hadden`s pragmatic but feart team selection.?
Is Murrayfield always to be just an AB "Second XV" fixture*.?

* Don`t think a visit to Eden Park is marked up on the SRU calender. (be delighted to hear otherwise)
We are in North America next summer. Which is a shame as it would be nice to get a decent tour. The following summer will be world cup prep and warm ups.