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Fitness permitting, what 23 do you go with?

More or less the same

I would try Tips at 7 with Sam at 6 again but I think it will Lydiate and Sam

If Biggar fit it will have to be Priestland. Assume Anscombe on bench to cover FH and FB

Who do we have to being in ?
Maybe Charteria for Bradley but I like Bradley. SR doesn't really bother me

Liam needs to get fit maybecAnscombe at FB would have been good to see another distributor in the back line

I'd go the same I think. Depending on Biggar's fitness. It looks like Gatland might see Anscombe as a FB so Priestland would come in at 10.

I still haven't watched the Ireland match. Was at park with kids. Listened to most on radio. How did Evans do in the loose? Sounded like he did well in the scrum.

Scotland have more grunt in the scrum than Ireland had on Sunday. It'll be a better test of the new look front row.

UKHamlet wrote:Scotland have more grunt in the scrum than Ireland had on Sunday. It'll be a better test of the new look front row.

I worry that our tight 5 wont be. Nel and Ford have played a lot of rugby this season already as Edinburgh appear intent to run them into the ground and conversely Dickinson (due to injury) and RGray (due to possibly p1ssing off Castres) looked under cooked. Not the best mix.

Same again but Lydiate for Tipuric

Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

If it wasn't for the captaincy issue, I'd have Lydiate and Tips starting. I suspect it will be Lydiate and Warburton, with Tips as an impact sub.

Unless forced by injury, same team again. If Anscombe is fit, and if Biggar doesn't make it, then we need another fly half on the bench. I'd also like another option to Lloyd Williams.

I'd also prefer Amos to Cuthbert on the bench, although that's another player with limited game time so I can see why Cuthbert is hanging on in there.

Fail reporting the same starting team as last week is likely, with Biggar not looking likely to make it.. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/ru ... t-10870044

Mikeyv wrote:Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

Surely we need to give James another go. 6 years in the wilderness and you'd drop him after one "ordinary" performance?


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Warby needs game time. have him at 7 Lydiate 6. otherwise much the same.

Mikeyv wrote:Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

I agree with Gatland in that I don't think Amos has the pace for a top class international wing.

We're building some nice strength in depth at fullback, hopefully we start to bring some more wingers through too.

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Mikeyv wrote:Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

Surely we need to give James another go. 6 years in the wilderness and you'd drop him after one "ordinary" performance?


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He was picked because of injury, based on decent club form in a weak league, which is fair enough, given the lack of options, but I'm not convinced he's international class.

I'm not entirely convinced by Amos, to be fair, but I'd say he's better than James, and has more potential.

Cuthbert or James on the bench is more difficult though, I'd probably go for James....just.

Same team. James did nothing wrong, it was hardly the game for wingers. Tipuric also did nothing wrong - was very lively. Think it would harsh to drop him. If the back row must be changed I'd like to see Tipuric with Lydiate.
Front row looked good, will be interesting to see if they can build on what they did last week.
Anscombe to the bench assuming Pristland starts
Would love to see Morgan given a go somewhere...

cadofyddol wrote:

Mikeyv wrote:Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

I agree with Gatland in that I don't think Amos has the pace for a top class international wing.

We're building some nice strength in depth at fullback, hopefully we start to bring some more wingers through too.

Did Gatland say that?

I'd rather Morgan on the bench than Cuthbert. Form aside, he offers something different to a big quick bloke.

After just one game, I'd give James another opportunity.

Tipuric was pretty anonymous against Ireland and is far more effective coming on fresh when everyone else is knackered. Tom James needs to be given a run - he was very willing and worked hard against Ireland, if a bit ineffectively - same goes for George. Cuthbert needs to be given time on the bench and brought on late in the game for the same reason as Tipuric: he will gain confidence from running in a couple of tries. I don't see Amos as an international.

You have to put Tom James into space. I don't think that a side playing with Gatland's favoured tactics will do this too often.

Tictac #1; running from deep and slightly sideways against a drifting defence and tictac #2; give it to Dr Bob. Don't think we saw one overlap. Irish defence was good but we're still too easy. Thought James/Liam/north did Ok with what they had to work with.

Bob wrote:

cadofyddol wrote:

Mikeyv wrote:Amos for James, Lydiate for Tuperic.

James looked ordinary, Tuperic a bit lightweight.

Tuperic should be in competition with Sam imo, not Lydiate, though I quite like him as a bench option.

I agree with Gatland in that I don't think Amos has the pace for a top class international wing.

We're building some nice strength in depth at fullback, hopefully we start to bring some more wingers through too.

Did Gatland say that?

Aye!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35489351

UKHamlet wrote:Tipuric was pretty anonymous against Ireland and is far more effective coming on fresh when everyone else is knackered. Tom James needs to be given a run - he was very willing and worked hard against Ireland, if a bit ineffectively - same goes for George. Cuthbert needs to be given time on the bench and brought on late in the game for the same reason as Tipuric: he will gain confidence from running in a couple of tries. I don't see Amos as an international.

I think you're being harsh on Tipuric, and if you watched the game back or looked at the individual stats you'd see he did quite a lot. Unfortunately for Wales, Garces let a lot go at the breakdown and as a result Tipuric and Warburton weren't able to make many turnovers.

We know how much Gatland rates Lydiate and has had reservations about Tipuric in the past. If they weren't too happy with Tips performance against Ireland then I think Lydiate would have started.

cadofyddol wrote:

UKHamlet wrote:Tipuric was pretty anonymous against Ireland and is far more effective coming on fresh when everyone else is knackered. Tom James needs to be given a run - he was very willing and worked hard against Ireland, if a bit ineffectively - same goes for George. Cuthbert needs to be given time on the bench and brought on late in the game for the same reason as Tipuric: he will gain confidence from running in a couple of tries. I don't see Amos as an international.

I think you're being harsh on Tipuric, and if you watched the game back or looked at the individual stats you'd see he did quite a lot. Unfortunately for Wales, Garces let a lot go at the breakdown and as a result Tipuric and Warburton weren't able to make many turnovers.

We know how much Gatland rates Lydiate and has had reservations about Tipuric in the past. If they weren't too happy with Tips performance against Ireland then I think Lydiate would have started.

Garces gave the attacking team a lot of leeway. There were a few times when I was expecting a penalty for holding on which wasn't given. So not a good day for a jackling player, but to be fair he was at least consistent.

cadofyddol wrote:

UKHamlet wrote:Tipuric was pretty anonymous against Ireland and is far more effective coming on fresh when everyone else is knackered. Tom James needs to be given a run - he was very willing and worked hard against Ireland, if a bit ineffectively - same goes for George. Cuthbert needs to be given time on the bench and brought on late in the game for the same reason as Tipuric: he will gain confidence from running in a couple of tries. I don't see Amos as an international.

I think you're being harsh on Tipuric, and if you watched the game back or looked at the individual stats you'd see he did quite a lot. Unfortunately for Wales, Garces let a lot go at the breakdown and as a result Tipuric and Warburton weren't able to make many turnovers.

We know how much Gatland rates Lydiate and has had reservations about Tipuric in the past. If they weren't too happy with Tips performance against Ireland then I think Lydiate would have started.

Have to disagree. His lack of beef meant Ireland prospered at the breakdown as he is too easily cleared out. Maybe we can afford him against a weaker back rows or if Rob Evans becomes a new Gethin, but I can't see him as more than an excellent bench option the way we play atm.