Team For Saturday

Flanking_Now_Hooks · Post by **Flanking_Now_Hooks** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:58 pm

My XV for England V Italy:

15 - Brown
14 - Watson
13 - Joseph
12 - Daly
11 - Nowell
10 - Farrell
9 - Care
1 - M Vunipola
2 - Hartley (George to feature)
3 - Cole (Brookes to feature)
4 - Launchbury
5 - Kruis (Itoje to feature)
6 - Haskell
7 - Kvesic
8 - B Vunipola (Beaumont to feature)

Hooky · Post by **Hooky** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:15 pm

Looks a better balance

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Flanking_Now_Hooks · Post by **Flanking_Now_Hooks** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:24 pm

Hooky wrote:Looks a better balance

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Telegraph's announced Kvesic and Daly sent back to their clubs, wtf do they have to do?!

Hooky · Post by **Hooky** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:25 pm

Same dynamic back row then presumably!

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Flanking_Now_Hooks · Post by **Flanking_Now_Hooks** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:29 pm

Hooky wrote:Same dynamic back row then presumably!

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Clifford and Beaumont have been retained, as has Itoje so we could see a change. Robshaw definitely looked the weak link last week and the balance is just squint, Hask/Clifford/Billy would have a better shape but a pairing of Haskell and Kvesic (if Hask plays like he did last week) could've been excellent.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:29 pm

I'd go (Eddie will go) from the 25 still left

15 Mike Brown (Mike Brown)
14 Jack Nowell (Jack Nowell)
13 JJ (JJ)
12 Devoto (Farrell)
11 Watson (Watson)
10 Ford (Ford)
9 Care (Care)
8 Billy V (Billy V)
7 Clifford (Clifford)...Kvesic has gone
6 Haskell (Haskell)
5 Kruis (Lawes)
4 Itoje (Launchbury)
3 Cole (Cole)
2 George (Hartley)
1 Mako (Mako)

bench
Marler (Marler)
Hartley (George)
Hill (Hill)
Launchbury (Kruis)
Robshaw (Robshaw)
Youngs (Youngs)
Faz (Devoto)
errrm Goode (Goode)....I would have picked Daly, but he has gone too.

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:54 pm

Banquo wrote:I'd go (Eddie will go) from the 25 still left

15 Mike Brown (Mike Brown)
14 Jack Nowell (Jack Nowell)
13 JJ (JJ)
12 Devoto (Farrell)
11 Watson (Watson)
10 Ford (Ford)
9 Care (Care)
8 Billy V (Billy V)
7 Clifford (Clifford)...Kvesic has gone
6 Haskell (Haskell)
5 Kruis (Lawes)
4 Itoje (Launchbury)
3 Cole (Cole)
2 George (Hartley)
1 Mako (Mako)

bench
Marler (Marler)
Hartley (George)
Hill (Hill)
Launchbury (Kruis)
Robshaw (Robshaw)
Youngs (Youngs)
Faz (Devoto)
errrm Goode (Goode)....I would have picked Daly, but he has gone too.

So, only 4 disputes in the XV twixt you and EJ! I'd go with your XV apart from picking Kruis and Launchbury in the 2nd row and I'd have Itoje at 6 instead of Haskell. I'd rather have a 6/2 split than have Goode on the bench so I'd give Haskell his shirt!!!

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:33 pm

..as I said its based on the 25 left available. So bit limited really. A 6:2 split can leave you pretty exposed, but I'd have had Daly on the bench, and I'd have started Kvesic. So it would have been 5 differences with Eddie and a different bench. Itoje hasn't played 6 all season so I think that's both unfair and unwise especially with a new 7 partner, and a green one at that. Pleased to see you agree with dropping Dylan though, that's progress

!

Lizard · Post by **Lizard** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:09 am

Team named:
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, Nowell, Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Lawes, Kruis, Robshaw, Haskell, B Vunipola

Replacements: George, Marler, Hill, Itoje, Launchbury, Clifford, Care, Goode

http://es.pn/1XnhaEb

Oakboy · Post by **Oakboy** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:11 am

Saracens forward Maro Itoje is in line to make his England debut after he was named on the bench for Sunday's Six Nations game against Italy in Rome.

The 21-year-old can play in both the second and back rows.

The starting XV has three changes from the team which beat Scotland last weekend.

Lock Courtney Lawes, loose-head prop Mako Vunipola and scrum-half Ben Youngs come in for Joe Launchbury, Joe Marler and Danny Care respectively

From BBC.

YouTube · Post by **UKHamlet** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:15 am

England match-day 23 to face Italy

15. Mike Brown (vice captain, Harlequins, 44 caps)

14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 16 caps)

13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 17 caps)

12. Owen Farrell (vice captain, Saracens, 36 caps)

11. Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 11 caps)

10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 18 caps)

9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 53 caps)

1. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 28 caps)

2. Dylan Hartley (captain, Northampton Saints, 67 caps)

3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 57 caps)

4. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 43 caps)

5. George Kruis (Saracens, 11 caps)

6. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, 44 caps)

7. James Haskell (Wasps, 63 caps)

8. Billy Vunipola (vice captain, Saracens, 22 caps)

Replacements

16. Jamie George (Saracens, 4 caps)

17. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 38 caps)

18. Paul Hill (Northampton Saints, uncapped)

19. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 29 caps)

20. Maro Itoje (Saracens, uncapped)

21. Jack Clifford (Harlequins, 1 cap)

22. Danny Care (Harlequins, 54 caps)

23. Alex Goode (Saracens, 19 caps)

SixAndAHalf · Post by **SixAndAHalf** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:16 am

Lizard wrote:Team named:
Brown, Watson, Joseph, Farrell, Nowell, Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Hartley, Cole, Lawes, Kruis, Robshaw, Haskell, B Vunipola

Replacements: George, Marler, Hill, Itoje, Launchbury, Clifford, Care, Goode

http://es.pn/1XnhaEb

Would have liked to see Clifford starting - that back row does not work and is a key problem area that needs to be addressed,

Lizard · Post by **Lizard** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:20 am

It's only Italy - shouldn't need a 1st XV.

Mr Mwenda · Post by **Mr Mwenda** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:23 am

Lizard wrote:It's only Italy - shouldn't need a 1st XV.

They'll beat England one of these days. Even so, not sure what is being experimented with in some of these selections....

Post by **Sandydragon** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:27 am

I'm a bit surprised that some of the promising young players aren't starting. I get why he wanted to win in Scotland and went for experience. But, this s Jones's honeymoon period and he won't cop too much flak for giving young players a chance.

Mr Mwenda · Post by **Mr Mwenda** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:31 am

Reflecting a bit, if they do believe that Ford and Farrell together has legs then they do have to give it more than one go. Just a bit disappointing afte rall this talk of Devoto on the old board.

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:20 pm

Sandydragon wrote:I'm a bit surprised that some of the promising young players aren't starting. I get why he wanted to win in Scotland and went for experience. But, this s Jones's honeymoon period and he won't cop too much flak for giving young players a chance.

This.

Is there a 'like'/'rep' button on the mob site?

Post by **morepork** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:40 pm

What an incredibly dull team. Alex Goode is the impact for the backs of the bench. Jesus.

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:09 pm

Why does morepork get his name up in blue oyster lights?

p/d · Post by **p/d** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:20 pm

Mellsblue wrote:Why does morepork get his name up in blue oyster lights?

It's pretty

Peat · Post by **Peat** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:21 pm

Sandydragon wrote:I'm a bit surprised that some of the promising young players aren't starting. I get why he wanted to win in Scotland and went for experience. But, this s Jones's honeymoon period and he won't cop too much flak for giving young players a chance.

Insofar as internet forums and Facebook are a useful barometer, I'd say Jones has already blown through his honeymoon period in no small part because he hasn't given young players a chance.

It's results or GTFO already, with the glum realisation that GTFO isn't actually an option, and his selections to date aren't exactly the greatest predicator of success. Here's hoping something changes.

nivek · Post by **nivek** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:53 pm

Pretty uninspiring, I'm shocked Daly isn't in the mix, why have Devoto on the bench last week not use him and then discard him this week ? and I don't know how crushingly mediocre that back row has to be before something is done .......

Despite losing to France last week I thought Italy looked pretty handy and have a horrible feeling they're going to turn us over.

Hello all by the way, I used to post a number of years ago and have decided to come back out of hiding.

Banquo · Post by **Banquo** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:26 pm

nivek wrote:Pretty uninspiring, I'm shocked Daly isn't in the mix, why have Devoto on the bench last week not use him and then discard him this week ? and I don't know how crushingly mediocre that back row has to be before something is done .......

Despite losing to France last week I thought Italy looked pretty handy and have a horrible feeling they're going to turn us over.

Hello all by the way, I used to post a number of years ago and have decided to come back out of hiding.

wilkommen

nivek · Post by **nivek** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:48 pm

Banquo wrote: wilkommen

Dankeschon

Mellsblue · Post by **Mellsblue** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:11 pm

Ich bin ein Berliner.

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