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Glasgow Warriors team to play Saracens in the Heineken Champions Cup at Scotstoun Stadium, Sunday 14 October, kick off 3.15pm - live on BT Sport 2. You can follow the game on Twitter @GlasgowWarriors. Glasgow Warriors appearances in brackets:

1. Oli Kebble (14)
2. Fraser Brown (80)
3. D’Arcy Rae (45)
4. Rob Harley (189)
5. Jonny Gray (91)
6. Ryan Wilson (144) (CC)
7. Callum Gibbins (20) (CC)
8. Matt Fagerson (30)

9. Ali Price (61)
10. Adam Hastings (15)
11. DTH van der Merwe (105)
12. Alex Dunbar (116)
13. Huw Jones (11)
14. Lee Jones (78)
15. Ruaridh Jackson (140)

Replacements

16. George Turner (25)
17. Alex Allan (79)
18. Petrus du Plessis (0)
19. Greg Peterson (31)
20. Chris Fusaro (147)
21. George Horne (25)
22. Pete Horne (143)
23. Rory Hughes (35)


Saracens team to face Glasgow Warriors at Scotstoun on Sunday 14th October (15H15 KO):

FORWARDS: Mako Vunipola (150), Jamie George (202), Vincent Koch (43), Will Skelton (31), George Kruis (163), Maro Itoje (100), Mike Rhodes (74), Billy Vunipola (89).

BACKS: Alex Goode (267), David Strettle (142), Alex Lozowski (66), Brad Barritt (228), Sean Maitland (47). Owen Farrell (179), Richard Wigglesworth (216).

REPLACEMENTS: Christopher Tolofua (22), Richard Barrington (141), Titi Lamositele (57), Nick Isiekwe (41), Jackson Wray (204), Ben Spencer (137), Nick Tompkins (75), Liam Williams (20).

It's odd looking at Sarries and thinking, you know what, you'd look better with Wray starting

Digby wrote:It's odd looking at Sarries and thinking, you know what, you'd look better with Wray starting

In place of who? I like Wray, but Billy any day of the week here. Could play him 6 and move Maro forward. That would be my preference.

Well Rhodes is clearly not a 7 by anyone but Jack Rowell’s definition.

Neither is Wray to be fair, but he’s closer than Rhodes IMO.

Scrumhead wrote:Well Rhodes is clearly not a 7 by anyone but Jack Rowell’s definition.

Neither is Wray to be fair, but he’s closer than Rhodes IMO.

Is he? Neither really is, but Rhodes has actually played 7 for Sarries more than Wray.

That can’t be correct.

Rhodes is generally rated very highly by the Sarries cognescenti, not far behind Barritt. I checked the starting lineup in 2018 and Burger has been at 7 most of the time, although I recall that Rhodes was injured for quite a period of time. 6,7,8 change around quite a lot between Billy V, Wray, Burger, Rhodes, Isiekwe and Earl.

Lozowski at 13 is generally considered "the man of the moment" right now.

That is a fairly mean looking squad for today, close to the best that Sarries can put out. I am expecting a solid win, but I also expected the same from Exeter.

How do Saracens so consistently get away with flying into rucks off their feet?

Mako subbed off with an injury (looked to be limping off and a heavily strapped foot)…
Billy caught under a player and looked to hyperextend his (heavily strapped) knee - I wouldn't be surprised to see him take some time out

Adam_P wrote:How do Saracens so consistently get away with flying into rucks off their feet?

They get away with far too much. Refs perhaps a bit intimidated by the number of capped players.

Adam_P wrote:How do Saracens so consistently get away with flying into rucks off their feet?

This is driving me insane. I genuinely think they've infringed at more rucks than not.

What the **** was that kick??

Farrell with all the time in the world kicks it too long…

Mikey Brown wrote:

Adam_P wrote:How do Saracens so consistently get away with flying into rucks off their feet?

This is driving me insane. I genuinely think they've infringed at more rucks than not.

And that last penalty was ridiculous. Wigglesworth or Rhodes should have been done instead.

Price wedging Kruis in to the ruck whilst slapping his back demanding he rolls away.

Sorry, but Itoje is just a category 5 wanker.

Itoje is such an unlikable prick, totally classless

morepork wrote:Sorry, but Itoje is just a category 5 wanker.

Yep. I know I'm meant to like the guy as an England support but they really make it difficult. I just can't believe how much the ref resents having to make a single call against Saracens.

Mikey Brown wrote:

Adam_P wrote:How do Saracens so consistently get away with flying into rucks off their feet?

This is driving me insane. I genuinely think they've infringed at more rucks than not.

I was amazed in that last period of play that they were actually penalised for being offside, as they normally have carte blanche with the offside line too.

Personally I love that Itoje stuff, but then I was a flanker and I enjoyed being a niggly, horrible bastard. Especially if you’re playing the Scots.

Mikey Brown wrote:

morepork wrote:Sorry, but Itoje is just a category 5 wanker.

Yep. I know I'm meant to like the guy as an England support but they really make it difficult. I just can't believe how much the ref resents having to make a single call against Saracens.

Saracens have a hell of a lot of players like this - good English players, whose behaviour makes them impossible to like. To the point where I am hoping to see a foreign club beat an English club in a European competition

Timbo wrote:Personally I love that Itoje stuff, but then I was a flanker and I enjoyed being a niggly, horrible bastard. Especially if you’re playing the Scots.

I can definitely see that side of it. He riles people up, he's very good at it, but you'd think you might be able to separate the very effective in-your-face stuff from the moments where he's just being a pure tosser.

If one of my minis players did that faux celebration at an oppo disallowed try I’d replace him immediately with a telling off.

I thought it was quite funny honestly.

Mellsblue wrote:If one of my minis players did that faux celebration at an oppo disallowed try I’d replace him immediately with a telling off.

It is not a particularly mature approach to the game, for sure.