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Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:25 pm
by Puja
15 Harry Mallinder
14 Ahsee Tuala
13 Fraser Dingwall
12 Piers Francis
11 Taqele Naiyaravoro
10 Dan Biggar
9 Henry Taylor

1 Nick Auterac
2 James Fish
3 Owen Franks
4 David Ribbans
5 Api Ratuniyarawa
6 Courtney Lawes
7 JJ Tonks
8 Teimana Harrison (c)

Replacements:
16 Sam Matavesi
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Ehren Painter
19 Lewis Bean
20 Tui Uru
21 Tom James
22 Rory Hutchinson
23 Tommy Freeman


15. Tom de Glanville, 14. Semesa Rokoduguni, 13. Max Clark, 12. Cameron Redpath, 11. Gabriel Hamer-Webb, 10. Josh Matavesi, 9. Will Chudley; 1. Beno Obano, 2. Jack Walker, 3. Christian Judge, 4. Will Spencer, 5. Elliott Stooke, 6. Mike Williams, 7. Josh Bayliss (C), 8. Zach Mercer
Replacements

16. Tom Dunn, 17. Lewis Boyce, 18. Will Stuart, 19. Charlie Ewels, 20. Miles Reid, 21. Ben Spencer, 22. Rhys Priestland, 23. Ruaridh McConnochie

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:23 pm
by fivepointer
Good match up this. Even allowing for changes there are a number of quality players turning out. Bath with a much stronger bench.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:26 am
by Adam_P
Saints have gone from a lightweight pacey back 3 against Irish to what must be the heaviest back 3 in the Prem. I'm enjoying seeing the squad rotation as a result of the condensed fixtures, makes things a bit more interesting. Agree that Bath's bench looks stronger, with just the props and Hutchinson being normal 1st team contenders for Saints. I'm hoping Saints can get something more out of Auterac, I feel like there's potential there that hasn't been fully realised yet.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:48 am
by Banquo
Adam_P wrote:Saints have gone from a lightweight pacey back 3 against Irish to what must be the heaviest back 3 in the Prem. I'm enjoying seeing the squad rotation as a result of the condensed fixtures, makes things a bit more interesting. Agree that Bath's bench looks stronger, with just the props and Hutchinson being normal 1st team contenders for Saints. I'm hoping Saints can get something more out of Auterac, I feel like there's potential there that hasn't been fully realised yet.
I like what Boyd is trying to do at Saints.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:54 am
by Adam_P
So do I! Slightly concerned that we re-contracted Vesty, Dowson and Ferguson yesterday but no mention of Boyd extending his stay. I get the feeling from various interviews that he is quite home sick, but hopefully he fancies following through his initial 3 year contract for one more.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:38 am
by fivepointer
I really like the fact that Boyd is prepared to give young players a chance, AND is keen to promote home grown coaches too.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:46 am
by Puja
Adam_P wrote:So do I! Slightly concerned that we re-contracted Vesty, Dowson and Ferguson yesterday but no mention of Boyd extending his stay. I get the feeling from various interviews that he is quite home sick, but hopefully he fancies following through his initial 3 year contract for one more.
Frankly, if I were given a choice right now between continuing to work in the UK or going to NZ, you wouldn't see me for dust!

Puja

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:00 pm
by Scrumhead
Adam_P wrote:Saints have gone from a lightweight pacey back 3 against Irish to what must be the heaviest back 3 in the Prem. I'm enjoying seeing the squad rotation as a result of the condensed fixtures, makes things a bit more interesting. Agree that Bath's bench looks stronger, with just the props and Hutchinson being normal 1st team contenders for Saints. I'm hoping Saints can get something more out of Auterac, I feel like there's potential there that hasn't been fully realised yet.
I thought the same when he signed for Quins. At one point when he was at Bath, he looked like he was developing very nicely, then he got injured and has never come close to rediscovering that kind of form.

I’ve read articles With him that suggest that his head isn’t quite in it. I’d have to go looking for it, but as I recall, he was intimating that he doesn’t really like being in a competitive environment and only certain types of training motivate him (presumably the gym!).

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:52 pm
by Adam_P
Puja wrote:
Adam_P wrote:So do I! Slightly concerned that we re-contracted Vesty, Dowson and Ferguson yesterday but no mention of Boyd extending his stay. I get the feeling from various interviews that he is quite home sick, but hopefully he fancies following through his initial 3 year contract for one more.
Frankly, if I were given a choice right now between continuing to work in the UK or going to NZ, you wouldn't see me for dust!

Puja
Have you never experienced the delights of Northampton?!

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:25 pm
by FKAS
Adam_P wrote:
Puja wrote:
Adam_P wrote:So do I! Slightly concerned that we re-contracted Vesty, Dowson and Ferguson yesterday but no mention of Boyd extending his stay. I get the feeling from various interviews that he is quite home sick, but hopefully he fancies following through his initial 3 year contract for one more.
Frankly, if I were given a choice right now between continuing to work in the UK or going to NZ, you wouldn't see me for dust!

Puja
Have you never experienced the delights of Northampton?!
There is a nice varied selection of speed cameras...

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:34 pm
by Adam_P
Late change for Saints, Mallinder out again last minute with a dodgy knee. Freeman onto the wing and Collins on the bench

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:04 pm
by Which Tyler
That's not too clever these days.

Double tackle on Mercer, legs go above the horizontal, lands on head/shoulder.

Nothing malicious, but yellow every day, red on a bad one.

They go yellow

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:07 pm
by Adam_P
I thought Harrison was more culpable than Tonks there to be honest

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:09 pm
by Adam_P
I would like to see Saints put Naiyaravoro at 8 on attacking scums as a regular option, even with 15 on the pitch

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:11 pm
by FKAS
Adam_P wrote:I thought Harrison was more culpable than Tonks there to be honest
As soon as you lift the legs it's all on you pretty much. Certainly Harrison flying caused most of the problems but Tonks put him in the air to begin with.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:11 pm
by Which Tyler
Zach off for the inevitable HIA

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:17 pm
by Adam_P
Our lineouts close to the try line have been awful the last few games

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:19 pm
by Which Tyler
Lol thinks that Saints should turn the screw whilst Bath are down a man.
Could have sworn Tonks plays for Northampton

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:29 pm
by Adam_P
Lots of adventure from saints so far but little to show for it

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:33 pm
by Raggs
Clearly on a long delay on my stream, games only just kicked off... Lawes has been fantastic in the first 5 minutes though, solid turnover, good slow down, nice offloads and carries.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:37 pm
by Which Tyler
Quite honestly, I didn't expect it to be all level at HT.
That 2nd 20 was all Northampton, and it just feels like you're ready to stick a couple of quick tries on us.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:42 pm
by Adam_P
Very frustrating first half really, pretty much all Saints in terms of open field rugby but little to show for it. Need to be much more clinical in the red zone. Bath have looked a bit one dimensional in attack, which is a shame with the talent in the back line

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by Which Tyler
Adam_P wrote:Very frustrating first half really, pretty much all Saints in terms of open field rugby but little to show for it. Need to be much more clinical in the red zone. Bath have looked a bit one dimensional in attack, which is a shame with the talent in the back line
Meh.
New half back combination, including a centre at FH, kids at 11, 12 and 15; whilst Rocco is on the downslope and Clarke is not exactly a world beater.

The only player in the backline who is first choice is playing out of position

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
by FKAS
Surprised the tackle on de Glanville as he went over wasn't reviewed. Nearly took his head off.

Re: Saints vs Bath - Wednesday

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:18 pm
by Which Tyler
FKAS wrote:Surprised the tackle on de Glanville as he went over wasn't reviewed. Nearly took his head off.
Should be a restart with a penalty from the centre spot, as Tom goes off for an HIA.

I really hate that there's no high tackle line if it might save a try