RugbyRebels

Give it to Shane

I watched this at home via the internet,,,,I aged 10 years in 5 minutes!!

I think my pulse was about 250 in those last five minutes.

webbyinjapan wrote:I watched this at home via the internet,,,,I aged 10 years in 5 minutes!!

Try it from our perspective.

webbyinjapan wrote:I watched this at home via the internet,,,,I aged 10 years in 5 minutes!!

Calm down old friend! Plenty of life in the old geeza yet

OptimisticJock wrote:

webbyinjapan wrote:I watched this at home via the internet,,,,I aged 10 years in 5 minutes!!

Try it from our perspective.

We do. Every time we play the Aussies.

Incredible that. Each time I watch I still can't believe it.

Sandydragon wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

webbyinjapan wrote:I watched this at home via the internet,,,,I aged 10 years in 5 minutes!!

Try it from our perspective.

We do. Every time we play the Aussies.

It's never been that bad. That was the most painful ending to a match I've watched.

Last game my Dad went to before Dementure got him. I can still remember the smile on his face when the final whistle went

Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

Yep. Makes it even better.

UKHamlet wrote:

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

Yep. Makes it even better.

I thought so. Started doubting myself having seen a group of professional rugby players not work that one out. [emoji3]

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

If Parkshad kicked it into touch, not too obviously, then it would have been a re kick or scrum, neither of which would have been a penalty in normal circumstances.

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

Deliberately out on the full is a penalty

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

Deliberately out on the full is a penalty

Only if it's very obvious. How many kick offs that go into touch are penalised with a penalty? Short of booting it straight into touch along the half way line, I think Parks could have played that a lot smarter.not that I'm complaining of course.

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

No - the game has to restart properly, so the restart would become a Welsh scrum on the half-way. That was the law that got Hartley riled up in the Premiership final so that he called the ref a "f*cking cheat." The Northampton fly-half kicked a 22 drop-out out on the full at the end of the first half and the ref called it back for a scrum, saying that the game had to restart.

Puja

Puja wrote:

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

No - the game has to restart properly, so the restart would become a Welsh scrum on the half-way. That was the law that got Hartley riled up in the Premiership final so that he called the ref a "f*cking cheat." The Northampton fly-half kicked a 22 drop-out out on the full at the end of the first half and the ref called it back for a scrum, saying that the game had to restart.

Puja

But.... As a scrum restart isn't a penalty, would the time have run out?

I thought this was discussed at the time and it was decided he couldn't have.

I've got a vague memory that the ref had been asked before the restart although it's entirely possible I'm talking oot my arse

OptimisticJock wrote:I thought this was discussed at the time and it was decided he couldn't have.

I've got a vague memory that the ref had been asked before the restart although it's entirely possible I'm talking oot my arse

Asking the ref was probably a mistake! Just kick the ball far enou that it goes directly into touch and looks like an accident.

Sandydragon wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:I thought this was discussed at the time and it was decided he couldn't have.

I've got a vague memory that the ref had been asked before the restart although it's entirely possible I'm talking oot my arse

Asking the ref was probably a mistake! Just kick the ball far enou that it goes directly into touch and looks like an accident.

Our luck against your lot stops us getting away with that.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:I thought this was discussed at the time and it was decided he couldn't have.

I've got a vague memory that the ref had been asked before the restart although it's entirely possible I'm talking oot my arse

Asking the ref was probably a mistake! Just kick the ball far enou that it goes directly into touch and looks like an accident.

Our luck against your lot stops us getting away with that.

If it makes you feel any better, we have the same problem with the Aussies!

Sandydragon wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: Asking the ref was probably a mistake! Just kick the ball far enou that it goes directly into touch and looks like an accident.

Our luck against your lot stops us getting away with that.

If it makes you feel any better, we have the same problem with the Aussies!

Not in the slightest lol.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote: Our luck against your lot stops us getting away with that.

If it makes you feel any better, we have the same problem with the Aussies!

Not in the slightest lol.

I tried.

Sandydragon wrote:

Puja wrote:

canta_brian wrote:Just our of interest, if Scotland had put the final kickoff out on the full would that have been game over?

No - the game has to restart properly, so the restart would become a Welsh scrum on the half-way. That was the law that got Hartley riled up in the Premiership final so that he called the ref a "f*cking cheat." The Northampton fly-half kicked a 22 drop-out out on the full at the end of the first half and the ref called it back for a scrum, saying that the game had to restart.

Puja

But.... As a scrum restart isn't a penalty, would the time have run out?

I think the logic is that, if the ref says there's time left to restart the game, it has to actually restart. Kicking the ball straight into touch doesn't constitute a completed restart, so the scrum would replace the kick-off as the restart mechanism. So it wouldn't be another phase, just a replacement of the previous one, like how a reset scrum doesn't end the game either.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Puja wrote:
No - the game has to restart properly, so the restart would become a Welsh scrum on the half-way. That was the law that got Hartley riled up in the Premiership final so that he called the ref a "f*cking cheat." The Northampton fly-half kicked a 22 drop-out out on the full at the end of the first half and the ref called it back for a scrum, saying that the game had to restart.

Puja

But.... As a scrum restart isn't a penalty, would the time have run out?

I think the logic is that, if the ref says there's time left to restart the game, it has to actually restart. Kicking the ball straight into touch doesn't constitute a completed restart, so the scrum would replace the kick-off as the restart mechanism. So it wouldn't be another phase, just a replacement of the previous one, like how a reset scrum doesn't end the game either.

Puja

Fair point.