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England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:53 pm
by Puja
Reverse fixture for the entertaining England rugby team this week, again on BBC for the Amazon refuseniks.


England: Kildunne; MacDonald, Tuima, Harrison, Dow; Daley-Mclean (capt), Riley; Cornborough, Davies, Brown, Ward, Talling, Millar-Mills, Matthews, Cleall.

Replacements: Cokayne, Perry, Keates, Beckett, Packer, Hunt, Rowland, Scarratt.

France: Izar; Banet, Pignot, Ulutule, Bertrand; Drouin, Sansus; Deshaye, Sochat, Bernadou, Ferer, N'Diaye, Mayans, Hermet (capt), Gros.

Replacements: Touye, Traore, Joyeux, Diallo, Menager, Bourdon, Peyronnet, Tremouliere.


Fair bit of rotation this week, including Poppy Cleall who is playing in her fourth position for England (prop, lock, flank, now no 8). No Emily Scarratt as we're apparently seeing how we cope without her in case she gets injured in the 2021 RWC. I think we'd be screwed without her no matter what we do, but Lagi Tuima's a decent enough player from what I've seen of her. Nowt wrong with a bit of bosh at 13, especially since we're playing two fly-halves at 10/12.

Puja

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:17 am
by Banquo
What’s up with Hannah Botterman?

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:56 am
by Puja
Banquo wrote:What’s up with Hannah Botterman?
No sign of Bern either. I can only assume we're experimenting in preparation for the RWC.

Puja

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:02 am
by fivepointer
Scarratt always makes us a better side but its a good idea to stand her down and look at alternatives.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:17 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Not a great first xv. French are fired up and some basic errors killing English momentum.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:20 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Mr Mwenda wrote:Not a great first xv. French are fired up and some basic errors killing English momentum.
And then England score a very silly try, hurrah.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:26 pm
by Digby
I don't think I've seen many refs kick the ball to one side and then ignore that. Against which that's 2 lineouts gone wrong back to back which have caused that problem, and that's nothing to do with the ref

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:29 pm
by Mr Mwenda
England 9 is struggling.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:39 pm
by Digby
England look better drilled, setpeice aside, but down on some explosive power on certain players. So can France sustain when they couldn't last week?

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:39 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Getting better, but too many errors and subsequent disjointment killing things.

Almost scored again after the French all did some full back play when the England 8 went on the rampage.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:40 pm
by Digby
About 3 nailed on yellows there

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:42 pm
by Digby
Awful kick from England, they deserve to concede that try

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:43 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Great French try!

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:44 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Digby wrote:About 3 nailed on yellows there
Yes, England need to be smarter at showing the ref.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:48 pm
by Digby
Mr Mwenda wrote:
Digby wrote:About 3 nailed on yellows there
Yes, England need to be smarter at showing the ref.
They were seen, the ref is just one of those who wants to keep 15 Vs 15 I assume

Beyond that surely we just tap and go from now on, we can't win a lineout and I suspect France will not keep running

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:03 pm
by Digby
My mistake, the ref will find a way to issue a yellow.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:04 pm
by Digby
And that should be another yellow

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:05 pm
by Puja
That is a yellow, never a red. It's not a big kick, just a shove with a boot. Glad the TMO talked her out of it.

Puja

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:06 pm
by Digby
And another yellow, or should be

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:07 pm
by Digby
Puja wrote:That is a yellow, never a red. It's not a big kick, just a shove with a boot. Glad the TMO talked her out of it.

Puja
Maybe, but if you stick your studs on someone you're bloody lucky to stay on the field. I'd have given a red

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:23 pm
by Mellsblue
Well, that’s more entertainment in 10mins than in two matches from the men.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:24 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Epic period of play, but still frustrating.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:25 pm
by Puja
And, with that, we give up on trying to win the game with the rotation and without Scarratt and bring on literally the entire bench.

Phenomenal defence from France though - they've earned this level of respect. Remains to be seen whether we can pull it back though.

Puja

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:29 pm
by Mr Mwenda
A day off form. French well worth their lead.

Re: England vs France - Saturday 12pm, BBC2

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:39 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Come on England! The burglary is on!