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Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by Puja
Hands up if you understand how the European competition works this year? Anyone? Bueller?
No, me neither, but here's some teams to stop the board autocannibalising itself with further discussion of Farrell/Jones/Hopelessness:
Northampton Saints: Furbank; Tuala, Proctor, Hutchinson, Naiyaravoro; Biggar, Mitchell; Auterac, Matavesi, Franks, Ribbans, Isiekwe, Lawes, Wood (capt), Adendorff
Replacements: Fish, Van Wyk, Hill, Ratuniyarawa, Tonks, Taylor, Dingwall, Olowofela.
Bordeaux-Begles: Buros; Cordero, Moefana, Lamerat, Lam; Botica, Lucu; Paiva, Lamothe, Cobilas; Petti, Cazeaux; Woki, Diaby (capt), Higginbotham.
Replacements: Kaulashvili, Maynadier, Tameifuna, Marais, Tauleigne, Gimbert, Jalibert, Uberti.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Is Lawes straight back in?
And of course we all understand it. It’s simple. Each team plays a random number of teams from other groups and the same group to determine who plays each other in the other group on a Wednesday in March, so long as the wind is westerly, otherwise it’s a direct sprint off between two opposing squirrels with outrageous french accents, who will be pelted with duck feet by one armed homeless people from Cardiff resulting in an overall champion. And in the case of a draw there is a mass game of blindfold soggy biscuit whilst flautists kick for goal and the winner is Jesus.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:39 pm
by Adam_P
Very good to have Lawes and Biggar back, and I've been waiting to see Isiekwe and Ribbans paired at lock together and Adendorff at 8 so pretty happy. We could really do with Naiyaravoro finding the confidence he had in the first half of last season to help spark the team into life.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:08 pm
by francoisfou
Puja wrote:Hands up if you understand how the European competition works this year? Anyone? Bueller?
No, me neither, but here's some teams to stop the board autocannibalising itself with further discussion of Farrell/Jones/Hopelessness:
Northampton Saints: Furbank; Tuala, Proctor, Hutchinson, Naiyaravoro; Biggar, Mitchell; Auterac, Matavesi, Franks, Ribbans, Isiekwe, Lawes, Wood (capt), Adendorff
Replacements: Fish, Van Wyk, Hill, Ratuniyarawa, Tonks, Taylor, Dingwall, Olowofela.
Bordeaux-Begles: Buros; Cordero, Moefana, Lamerat, Lam; Botica, Lucu; Paiva, Lamothe, Cobilas; Petti, Cazeaux; Woki, Diaby (capt), Higginbotham.
Replacements: Kaulashvili, Maynadier, Tameifuna, Marais, Tauleigne, Gimbert, Jalibert, Uberti.
The players highlighted were at Twickers on Sunday, and I was particularly impressed with young Moefana. He may not get his chance in the next 6N but is definitely one to watch. Woki, too, is making a name for himself and I expect him to be in the 6N squad.
Northampton are going to have a tough time and will be lucky to get a losing bp.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:51 pm
by FKAS
Agreed the Woki lad looks a massive talent. Reminds me a bit of Tom Croft with his pace and lineout skills. Surprised Jalibert is on the bench behind Botica unless Bordeaux are taking it it easy.
Is Harry Mallinder injured again?
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:31 am
by Scrumhead
Woki would be the ideal blindside for us in many respects. France do have an excellent crop.
I wonder how he and Diaby feel packing down with Petti?
Jalibert went off injured against England so I’m assuming he’s not fully fit.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:58 am
by Peej
Puja wrote:Hands up if you understand how the European competition works this year? Anyone? Bueller?
No, me neither, but here's some teams to stop the board autocannibalising itself with further discussion of Farrell/Jones/Hopelessness:
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Under appreciated reference
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:00 am
by Digby
Scrumhead wrote:
I wonder how he and Diaby feel packing down with Petti?
Is that the lad behind the racist conspiracy theory website one heats about in this county?
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:17 am
by Scrumhead
Yes. Pablo Matera got the most press, but Petti was also one of them.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:40 am
by twitchy
I can't tell if saints are good or not.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:34 pm
by Adam_P
Saints looking physical early doors, exactly what we need to do. Hopefully we can keep it up.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:41 pm
by Adam_P
Putting some lovely plays together without dropping it too, crazy!
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 pm
by Mellsblue
Could he yellow card Biggar for being a whining bitch?
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:23 pm
by Mellsblue
Siri, what does imploding look like?
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:27 pm
by twitchy
That was brain dead from saints.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:01 pm
by Timbo
How on earth did Saints lose that!? Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:33 pm
by Adam_P
Incredibly frustrating way to throw the game away, all standing around doing nothing watching a bouncing ball.
At least in general the performance, especially defensively, was a lot better than the dross we've been serving up since the resumption of rugby. Ribbans put in a hell of a shift.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:19 pm
by Tigersman
Saints have lost their last 14 games in a row.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:26 am
by Digby
Pleased they lost that given Begles almost started as many English backs. And really why not play young much cheaper English players when expensive foreign signings are going to pass like Biggar? (Pass like Biggar is the new Maroon 5 single out in time for Christmas)
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:13 am
by twitchy
Adam_P wrote:Incredibly frustrating way to throw the game away, all standing around doing nothing watching a bouncing ball.
At least in general the performance, especially defensively, was a lot better than the dross we've been serving up since the resumption of rugby. Ribbans put in a hell of a shift.
I'm not even a saints fan but that annoyed me for some reason. How can you be professional rugby players and not be paying attention at such a key moment. Honestly we would have been shouted at for doing that at u16.
I agree that ribbans played well, the less said about fish the better he had a stinker.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:23 am
by fivepointer
Had a feeling Saints inability to convert possession and good territory into points might cost them. A dozy last 10 minutes undermined some of the good work they put in before that.
Very frustrating for Saints followers and even this neutral.
I'd agree that Ribbans had a very strong game.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:47 pm
by Adam_P
Digby wrote:Pleased they lost that given Begles almost started as many English backs. And really why not play young much cheaper English players when expensive foreign signings are going to pass like Biggar? (Pass like Biggar is the new Maroon 5 single out in time for Christmas)
Because Biggar isn't paid per game, and if we're paying him a salary of £600k it makes sense to use him. I don't think he had a particularly bad game either - we'd have lost by more with Grayson.
Of all the things Saints can be criticised for at the moment, I really don't think the number of EQP in the squad is one of them.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:58 pm
by Digby
Adam_P wrote:Digby wrote:Pleased they lost that given Begles almost started as many English backs. And really why not play young much cheaper English players when expensive foreign signings are going to pass like Biggar? (Pass like Biggar is the new Maroon 5 single out in time for Christmas)
Because Biggar isn't paid per game, and if we're paying him a salary of £600k it makes sense to use him. I don't think he had a particularly bad game either - we'd have lost by more with Grayson.
Of all the things Saints can be criticised for at the moment, I really don't think the number of EQP in the squad is one of them.
I've little idea what Saints are doing more generally, I just looked at the backline for this particular game and thought if Sarries or Sale had done that people would quite rightly take the piss because it's pathetic. And given the result was pathetic anyway they might as well pick English instead, and if they can offload some of those failing higher paid names, doubtful, better still
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:02 pm
by Adam_P
Of the 56 man senior squad, the following are not EQP:
Adendorff
Biggar
Franks
Hutchinson
Matavesi
Naiyaravoro
Proctor
Ratuniyarawa
Tuala
So our entire contingent were in the 23 for this weekend. And I don't think you can include Hutchinson in your point, as he's an academy product who could have gone England or Scotland.
Re: Northampton vs Bordeaux
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:43 pm
by Scrumhead
Agreed. Saints have problems, but a a lack of EQP isn’t the main thing I’d be questioning.
Worth mentioning that while Sam Matavesi might be a Fijian international, he (along with his brothers) was born and bred in Cornwall too.