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The right to protest

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:51 pm
by Zhivago
Not sure what's worse, the fact that they're adding a bunch of new offences as amendments after the second reading, in order to avoid parliamentary scrutiny, or the new offences themselves as pertains to their potential to stifle protest.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lice-state

Details here:
https://bills.parliament.uk/publication ... uments/964

Page 68, Amendment 319A onwards

Re: The right to protest

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:53 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Zhivago wrote:Not sure what's worse, the fact that they're adding a bunch of new offences as amendments after the second reading, in order to avoid parliamentary scrutiny, or the new offences themselves as pertains to their potential to stifle protest.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lice-state

Details here:
https://bills.parliament.uk/publication ... uments/964

Page 68, Amendment 319A onwards
Yes, it's hard to know which is worse. If (when) they get away with this late insertion, creating of new draconian offences (very much what you'd expect in a police state), they'll do it again, and to an even greater extent. Aren't there any rules about this? How much of a bill can be changed after the Lords have seen it?

Aa to the laws, protest is over in the UK. Or rather, any protest this government or the police doesn't like. Unless you're willing to become a criminal for it.

(As an aside, it does seem to criminalize the practice of clamping the wheels of someone else's car.)

Re: The right to protest

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:47 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Other than Monbiot, the Guardian seems uninterested in this story. Same for the Independent. I'm not saying don't cover the No. 10 Christmas parties story but guys, this is our democracy being dismantled here.

Re: The right to protest

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:10 pm
by cashead
Straight out of the Crosby Textor playbook.

Keep the press distracted with dead cats and a buffoon act. I'm guessing they're also holding access to cabinet hostage for the press.

Seriously, we saw the same shit in New Zealand.

Re: The right to protest

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:40 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Mobiot continues to beat the drum on this, since no one else in the media is interested.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... slation-uk

Re: The right to protest

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:27 am
by Mellsblue
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:53 pm
Zhivago wrote:Not sure what's worse, the fact that they're adding a bunch of new offences as amendments after the second reading, in order to avoid parliamentary scrutiny, or the new offences themselves as pertains to their potential to stifle protest.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lice-state

Details here:
https://bills.parliament.uk/publication ... uments/964

Page 68, Amendment 319A onwards
Yes, it's hard to know which is worse. If (when) they get away with this late insertion, creating of new draconian offences (very much what you'd expect in a police state), they'll do it again, and to an even greater extent. Aren't there any rules about this? How much of a bill can be changed after the Lords have seen it?

Aa to the laws, protest is over in the UK. Or rather, any protest this government or the police doesn't like. Unless you're willing to become a criminal for it.

(As an aside, it does seem to criminalize the practice of clamping the wheels of someone else's car.)
How was your protest march this weekend?