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Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:42 pm
by Puja
Anyone controversial missing from the AB's squad? I'm surprised to see Bryce Heem is still going and is apparently in the top 9 centres in New Zealand, but my knowledge isn't good enough to pick out anything more detailed.

Puja

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:17 pm
by J Dory
Team vs Japan:

New Zealand: 15 Stephen Perofeta, 14 Sevu Reece, 13 Braydon Ennor, 12 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, 11 Caleb Clarke, 10 Richie Mo’unga, 9 Finlay Christie, 8 Hoskins Sotutu, 7 Sam Cane (c), 6 Shannon Frizell, 5 Tupou Vaa’i, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Nepo Laulala, 2 Dane Coles, 1 George Bower

Replacements: 16 Samisoni Taukei’aho, 17 Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 18 Tyrel Lomax, 19 Patrick Tuipulotu, 20 Dalton Papali’i, 21 Aaron Smith, 22 David Havili, 23 Anton Lienert-Brown

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:29 pm
by morepork
I'll be watching the girlz...

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:50 pm
by morepork
Do a Norm Berryman and hitch to Whangarei.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:41 am
by Cameo
That was really poor from New Zealand.

Japan were good but New Zealand just seem to spend a lot of their matches going through the motions and hoping someone does something cool.

It won't fix everything but, for me, Papali'i needs to start. He adds some bite and aggression.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:12 am
by Puja

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:05 am
by Cameo
Any news on when Will Jordan will join them. Wonder what this ear infection is that got him and Whitelock.

Big few weeks all round. I reckon we'll have a good idea by the end of the month whether this has just been a really bad year or whether the All Blacks are no more than a dark horse for the WC next year.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:17 pm
by J Dory
1. Ethan de Groot (10)
2. Codie Taylor (73)
3. Tyrel Lomax (21)
4. Samuel Whitelock (140 - captain)
5. Scott Barrett (55)
6. Shannon Frizell (22)
7. Dalton Papali'i (19)
8. Ardie Savea (67)
9. Aaron Smith (112)
10. Richie Mo'unga (42)
11. Caleb Clarke (12)
12. Jordie Barrett (45)
13. Rieko Ioane (56)
14. Sevu Reece (22)
15. Beauden Barrett (109)

Reserves:
16. Samisoni Taukei'aho (18)
17. Ofa Tu'ungafasi (49)
18. Fletcher Newell (4)
19. Tupou Vaa'i (16)
20. Akira Ioane (19)
21. Brad Weber (17)
22. David Havili (22)
23. Anton Lienert-Brown (57)

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:49 pm
by J Dory
I like the look of this team. The three Barretts starting is kinda cool, and all deserving of their positions for me. Having ALB, Weber, Ioane, Havili, Taukei'aho on the bench adds real impact. But yeah, recent results are underwhelming. Feck it, ABs by 20.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:16 pm
by paddy no 11
Paddling for the baby micks so far

Mckenzie a joy to watch at this level

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:21 pm
by paddy no 11
Cheap shot there from 7

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:49 pm
by paddy no 11
Stevenson lording it

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:16 am
by morepork
DMac looking good. RTS getting a bit of a shot at a never die with the ball mantra also encouraging. The contrast between Ireland A loosies and their first team annoying bastard counterparts is a big point of difference though.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:04 pm
by J Dory
Bit of a tonking in the end.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:16 pm
by morepork
I can't get over how meh our back line is as a unit. Some flashes of individual brilliance but not a really cohesive unit. Poor Caleb Clarke drops most of the ball that come his way.

Sam Cane? It's Papalii from now on, Shirley.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:57 pm
by morepork
Anyone watching Ireland soak up Bok intensity and give it straight back?

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:05 am
by Cameo
Some talk of the last few minutes putting a gloss on the ABs result. I actually thought that on another day, they would have got there a lot quicker and held Wales to less. Wayne Barnes was reasonably consistent but wasn't making it easy to get jackal penalties today. NZ could have got a number of penalties, but half the time were penalised.

Also, yes, Papali'i is a big part of the answer.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:04 pm
by Lizard
Has anyone even tried to coach Caleb Clarke in defence?

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:50 pm
by morepork
Or catch the feckin ball.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:34 am
by canta_brian
How far back in time do we need to go to find an all black team this current one would beat?

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:12 pm
by canta_brian
2001? You pulling my leg?

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:10 pm
by J Dory
Team v England:

15 Beauden Barrett, 14 Mark Telea, 13 Rieko Ioane, 12 Jordie Barrett, 11 Caleb Clarke, 10 Richie Mo’unga, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Ardie Savea, 7 Dalton Papali’i, 6 Scott Barrett, 5 Sam Whitelock (c), 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Tyrel Lomax, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 Ethan de Groot

16 Samisoni Taukei’aho, 17 George Bower, 18 Nepo Laulala, 19 Shannon Frizell, 20 Hoskins Sotutu, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 David Havili, 23 Anton Lienert-Brown

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:17 am
by Cameo
Interesting Telea got the start. Otherwise broadly as expected?

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:53 pm
by canta_brian
What a shitshow that turned out to be.

Re: Sam and Pat's Big European Adventure: All Blacks and All Blacks XV squads for the tour

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:30 pm
by J Dory
I was disappointed England settled for the draw, but understandable given they were behind for most of the match I guess. Hard to know what to make of this ABs team, dominance to mediocrity, brilliance mixed with errors, I'm kind of glad the season is over, not sure how much more of this I could watch.