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Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:31 pm
by Puja
Toulouse: Ramos; Tauzin, Delibes, Ahki, Lebel; Ntamack, Dupont (capt); Baille, Marchand, Aldegheri, Arnold, Meafou, Flament, Willis, Jelonch.

Replacements: Mauvaka, Neti, Faumuina, Brennan, Youyoutte, Tolofua, Guitoune, Page-Relo.

Sale: McGuigan; Reed, James, S Hill, O'Flaherty; R Du Preez (capt), Warr; Rodd, Van der Merwe, Schonert, Wiese, J Hill, JL Du Preez, T Curry, D Du Preez.

Replacements: Ashman, McIntyre, Jones, Ross, B Curry, Simpson, Curtin, Mills.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:55 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Sale have done well to stay in this, although unsurprisingly they are rather up against it.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:52 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Gave up after it turned into a humping. Sale very much also rans at this level. Not smart with it either.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm
by FKAS
If you're going to play a team like that Toulouse outfit you can't be missing so many first choice players. Your 9/10/12 for starters.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:05 am
by chris18501
Ramos cited twice. Possible eye gouge on Warr and headbutt on Mcguigan

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am
by FKAS
He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:37 am
by francoisfou
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FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
I’ve never thought Ramos as that sort of player, and I await the citing decision with impatience as it would indeed be a blow for Toulouse and France, but Toulouse can now call on Melvin Jaminet who should be fit for selection for Friday evening’s home Top14 match against Castres.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:09 am
by 16th man
FKAS wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:51 pm If you're going to play a team like that Toulouse outfit you can't be missing so many first choice players. Your 9/10/12 for starters.
Certainly there's very few English squads who can compete with key players missing against the bigger French squads.

Given Sale's approach it was always going to be an uphill struggle against that pack.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:53 am
by chris18501
FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
Allegedly a lot of off the ball stuff which amazingly the French TV producers didn't show.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:32 pm
by Puja
chris18501 wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:53 am
FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
Allegedly a lot of off the ball stuff which amazingly the French TV producers didn't show.
There really does need to be something done about that. At the moment, the French TV producers are embarrassingly partisan with what they will and won't show replays of, with away team infringements replayed over and over in varying slo-mos and angles to rile the crowd until the TMO intervenes, and video of home infractions mysteriously not being worthy of any kind of replay at all.

Puja

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:43 pm
by 16th man
Puja wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:32 pm
chris18501 wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:53 am
FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
Allegedly a lot of off the ball stuff which amazingly the French TV producers didn't show.
There really does need to be something done about that. At the moment, the French TV producers are embarrassingly partisan with what they will and won't show replays of, with away team infringements replayed over and over in varying slo-mos and angles to rile the crowd until the TMO intervenes, and video of home infractions mysteriously not being worthy of any kind of replay at all.

Puja
I think its probably going to need a sufficiently egregious example to happen in the World Cup semis or final, for it to actually gather sufficient outrage to even get an official conversation about taking action started.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm
by francoisfou
francoisfou wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:37 am [marq=]
FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
I’ve never thought Ramos as that sort of player, and I await the citing decision with impatience as it would indeed be a blow for Toulouse and France, but Toulouse can now call on Melvin Jaminet who should be fit for selection for Friday evening’s home Top14 match against Castres.
Ramos is suspended for five weeks. If Jaminet puts some good performances together, he may well take Ramos’ place in the French XV, although Brice Dulin of La Rochelle is in excellent form at fullback.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:12 pm
by Puja
francoisfou wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 pm
francoisfou wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:37 am [marq=]
FKAS wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:00 am He got sent off late in the game didn't he for the headbutt. The gouge as well could pretty much end his season. Be a blow for club and country. Pretty nasty stuff. Was it that niggly a game?
I’ve never thought Ramos as that sort of player, and I await the citing decision with impatience as it would indeed be a blow for Toulouse and France, but Toulouse can now call on Melvin Jaminet who should be fit for selection for Friday evening’s home Top14 match against Castres.
Ramos is suspended for five weeks. If Jaminet puts some good performances together, he may well take Ramos’ place in the French XV, although Brice Dulin of La Rochelle is in excellent form at fullback.
The French depth at the moment is just deeply unfair.

Puja

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:04 am
by FKAS
"The committee then decided that the two sanctions of five weeks and four weeks should run concurrently and Ramos is therefore free to play on Monday, 23 January 2023. "

Hmm, couldn't have him miss the 6N now could we lads.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:32 am
by 16th man
FKAS wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:04 am "The committee then decided that the two sanctions of five weeks and four weeks should run concurrently and Ramos is therefore free to play on Monday, 23 January 2023. "

Hmm, couldn't have him miss the 6N now could we lads.
The citing and disciplinary process embarrassing itself? Never.

Re: Toulouse vs Sale - Sunday 1pm

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:14 am
by FKAS
16th man wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:32 am
FKAS wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:04 am "The committee then decided that the two sanctions of five weeks and four weeks should run concurrently and Ramos is therefore free to play on Monday, 23 January 2023. "

Hmm, couldn't have him miss the 6N now could we lads.
The citing and disciplinary process embarrassing itself? Never.
Consistency you say? I'm not sure they could spell it...