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Exeter: 15 Josh Hodge, 14 Jack Nowell (c), 13 Ian Whitten, 12 Solomone Kata, 11 Olly Woodburn, 10 Harvey Skinner, 9 Sam Maunder, 8 Sam Simmonds, 7 Jacques Vermeulen, 6 Dave Ewers, 5 Jack Dunne, 4 Jannes Kirsten, 3 Harry Williams, 2 Jack Innard, 1 Scott Sio
Replacements: 16 Jack Yeandle, 17 Danny Southworth, 18 Patrick Schickerling, 19 Mike Williams, 20 Aidon Davis, 21 Jack Maunder, 22 Joe Simmonds, 23 Tom Hendrickson

Sale: 15 Joe Carpenter, 14 Tom Roebuck, 13 Rob du Preez, 12 Ryan Mills, 11 Tom O’Flaherty, 10 George Ford, 9 Gus Warr, 8 Jean-Luc du Preez, 7 Sam Dugdale, 6 Jono Ross (c), 5 Jonny Hill, 4 Cobus Wiese, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Ewan Ashman, 1 Bevan Rodd
Replacements: 16 Ethan Caine, 17 Si McIntyre, 18 Nick Schonert, 19 Alex Groves, 20 Josh Beaumont, 21 Raffi Quirke, 22 Sam James, 23 Arron Reed

Ford's form at 10 is the obvious main point of interest in this afternoons game.

If Ford plays well today, then has a good game vs Sarries on ITV next weekend (assuming Borthwick wants him playing the minutes) the press coverage leading up to the team being named for the Ireland game will be very interesting.

16th man wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:20 am If Ford plays well today, then has a good game vs Sarries on ITV next weekend (assuming Borthwick wants him playing the minutes) the press coverage leading up to the team being named for the Ireland game will be very interesting.

We can but hope. Ford has never been more needed by England

J Hill misses 3 tackles in the opening 6 mins.

Ford not taking the place kicks

George Ford looks sharper this week. Some of the Sale guys aren't quite on his wavelength yet though, a couple of them have been a bit static when taking the ball with a rapidly closing half gap in front of them.

Sale are behind due to their woeful discipline. Rodd's yellow card to take them down to 13 was spectacularly dim.

Sale forward power now telling

I don't like reffing decisions like that. "If it had stopped him then it would have been a penalty try but he scored it so I'm going to award the try". Well that's a kick in the teeth to Sale who then have a difficult conversion that's missed and have to play against 15 for the next 10 mins.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:36 pm I don't like reffing decisions like that. "If it had stopped him then it would have been a penalty try but he scored it so I'm going to award the try". Well that's a kick in the teeth to Sale who then have a difficult conversion that's missed and have to play against 15 for the next 10 mins.

In the end those 2 pts made all the difference

Cue Sando on the phone to Pearcey tomorrow.....

Sale didnt help themselves with their poor discipline. The winning penalty was due to some numbskull play from Ford. That aside i thought he grew into the game and made some very nice contributions.

Hodge made a difference for Exeter and i thought the England discards, Nowell and Simmonds, were very good.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:36 pm I don't like reffing decisions like that. "If it had stopped him then it would have been a penalty try but he scored it so I'm going to award the try". Well that's a kick in the teeth to Sale who then have a difficult conversion that's missed and have to play against 15 for the next 10 mins.

Unfortunately, that's in the lawbook. Not possible to give a penalty try unless a try has not been scored.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:07 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:36 pm I don't like reffing decisions like that. "If it had stopped him then it would have been a penalty try but he scored it so I'm going to award the try". Well that's a kick in the teeth to Sale who then have a difficult conversion that's missed and have to play against 15 for the next 10 mins.

Unfortunately, that's in the lawbook. Not possible to give a penalty try unless a try has not been scored.

Puja

He could have still sin binned the Chiefs player.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:19 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:07 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:36 pm I don't like reffing decisions like that. "If it had stopped him then it would have been a penalty try but he scored it so I'm going to award the try". Well that's a kick in the teeth to Sale who then have a difficult conversion that's missed and have to play against 15 for the next 10 mins.

Unfortunately, that's in the lawbook. Not possible to give a penalty try unless a try has not been scored.

Puja

He could have still sin binned the Chiefs player.

Tbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:23 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:19 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:07 pm

Unfortunately, that's in the lawbook. Not possible to give a penalty try unless a try has not been scored.

Puja

He could have still sin binned the Chiefs player.

Tbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

Puja

You're conspicuously absent from the Wales thread

Danno wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:23 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:19 pm

He could have still sin binned the Chiefs player.

Tbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

Puja

You're conspicuously absent from the Wales thread

I'm flattered I was missed! I only watched the game part-time on my phone, as I was getting drunk on a coach journey back from playing a rugby game, so I haven't feel qualified to offer any opinions on it yet. The m-b-m is going to be interesting from that perspective.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:48 pm

Danno wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:23 pm

Tbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

Puja

You're conspicuously absent from the Wales thread

I'm flattered I was missed! I only watched the game part-time on my phone, as I was getting drunk on a coach journey back from playing a rugby game, so I haven't feel qualified to offer any opinions on it yet. The m-b-m is going to be interesting from that perspective.

Puja

If you need actual money to finish it I will chip in

Danno wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:43 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:48 pm

Danno wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 pm

You're conspicuously absent from the Wales thread

I'm flattered I was missed! I only watched the game part-time on my phone, as I was getting drunk on a coach journey back from playing a rugby game, so I haven't feel qualified to offer any opinions on it yet. The m-b-m is going to be interesting from that perspective.

Puja

If you need actual money to finish it I will chip in

Wow, that's awfully flattering. Thank you - know that you are the reason I started it tonight rather than tomorrow evening. You can explain why I'm tired to my boss tomorrow.

If you do have a pound or two spare though, give it to Hammy for the upkeep of this place, as that's important to me: viewforum.php?f=31

Puja

stepsider wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:16 pm Ford not taking the place kicks

Easing him back in and with Du Preez at 13 not giving him more to do than us needed at this point is a decent option.

16th man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:39 am

stepsider wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:16 pm Ford not taking the place kicks

Easing him back in and with Du Preez at 13 not giving him more to do than us needed at this point is a decent option.

Yeah and protects his achilles a bit just removing those few kicks. He's not back to his best yet but there were promising signs. If England release him next weekend he might have enough minutes to stake a claim for the week after.

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:23 pmTbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again.
If a penalty offence fails to prevent a try being scored, then give the try and conversion, and restart with a penalty from the half-way line (and a card if necessary - no idea on the instance being discusses).

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:27 am

Puja wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:23 pmTbh, had he not scored and the penalty try given, that was one where a yellow would've felt very harsh. Yes, it would've been a high tackle that prevented a try being scored, but it wasn't dangerous or cynical, it was just a seatbelt.

I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again.
If a penalty offence fails to prevent a try being scored, then give the try and conversion, and restart with a penalty from the half-way line (and a card if necessary - no idea on the instance being discusses).

It's not in the lawbook though. You can only give a penalty on restart for something that happens after the try.

Puja

Yeah surely it's just like a normal penalty advantage, even if it's a very short one in the act of scoring.

Puja wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:53 amIt's not in the lawbook though. You can only give a penalty on restart for something that happens after the try.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I know that's what the lawbook says, I was suggesting a law change.