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The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:54 pm
by MrK
A bit previous I know
Gatlands saying a 19/14 split and 4 centres
Im going with
Thomas, Smith, Domachowski
Lake, Dee, Elias (- Parry if not fit, although Id have Parry ahead of Elias in my squad (it would have been ahead of Dee but he impressed me last week)
Francis, Thomas, Lewis
Rowlands, Beard, Jenkins, Davies (Im putting money on him having a big game Sat)
Lydiate, Wainwright, Reffell, Morgan, Faletau, Plumtree
Williams, Hardy, Davies
Biggar, Anscombe, O Williams (- as can cover IC also)
Tompkins, North, Grady, J Williams (- LLewelyn if not fit)
Adams, LRZ, L Williams, Dyer (- but maybe 1/2p instead of Dyer if he considers North/ Grady as wing cover)
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:01 pm
by pompey-zebra
Dont think you'll be far off there. Fitness to a few ( anscombe, j Williams etc) might be the deciding factor. I like the balance you've got with that side- plenty of versatility but not by compromising ability for it.
I wouldnt be unhappy if that squad went to France.
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:04 pm
by Sourdust
I'm frustrated that K Williams hasn't been given a chance; even if he beats England single-handedly on Saturday it's probably too late.
There seems to be a growing feeling - which I share - that Dyer won't make it.
I agree re: hookers but that's probably my Os bias showing. TBH my first choice 2 is Dewi Lake, and my second choice would be Dewi Lake... if the Sherriff was fit he might make third, but otherwise it's probably Dewi Lake.
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:55 pm
by pompey-zebra
Sourdust wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:04 pm
I'm frustrated that K Williams hasn't been given a chance; even if he beats England single-handedly on Saturday it's probably too late.
There seems to be a growing feeling - which I share - that Dyer won't make it.
I agree re: hookers but that's probably my Os bias showing. TBH my first choice 2 is Dewi Lake, and my second choice would be Dewi Lake... if the Sherriff was fit he might make third, but otherwise it's probably Dewi Lake.
Yes, it's a shame KW didnt get a chance in one of the earlier squads he was in. He'll have to have an amazing impact off the bench if he's to force his way on, but at least he'll have a chance at last.
I'm not sure Dyer did enough in the first test to secure a place, and assuming cuthbert will start against SA if fit, then his opportunity may already have gone.
As for hooker, have you considered Dewi Lake?
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Whether it's premature or immature, here's mine:
Thomas, Smith, Domachowski
Lake, Dee, Elias
Francis, Thomas, Lewis
Rowlands, Beard, Jenkins, Davies
Lydiate, Wainwright, Reffell, Morgan, Faletau, Plumtree
Williams, Hardy, Davies
Biggar, Anscombe, O Williams
Tompkins, North, J Williams, K Williams
Adams, LRZ, L Williams, Grady
Barring dramatic new info I'm fairly happy to send those in bold. The others I'd like to see some more of.
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:53 am
by Numbers
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
Whether it's premature or immature, here's mine:
Thomas, Smith, Domachowski
Lake, Dee, Elias
Francis, Thomas, Lewis
Rowlands, Beard, Jenkins, Davies
Lydiate,
Wainwright, Reffell, Morgan, Faletau, Plumtree
Williams, Hardy, Davies
Biggar, Anscombe, O Williams
Tompkins, North, J Williams, K Williams
Adams, LRZ, L Williams, Grady
Barring dramatic new info I'm fairly happy to send those in bold. The others I'd like to see some more of.
That's the squad I would pick from what we have seen so far, barring Kieron Williams, you've picked 3 12s in essence (tho Tompkins can play 13 also), I'd have Grady in as one of the 13s and either Dyer or Cuthbert added to the outside backs.
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:29 pm
by MrK
Numbers wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:53 am
That's the squad I would pick from what we have seen so far, barring Kieron Williams, you've picked 3 12s in essence (tho Tompkins can play 13 also), I'd have Grady in as one of the 13s and either Dyer or Cuthbert added to the outside backs.
So my initial post?
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:04 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Numbers wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:53 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
Whether it's premature or immature, here's mine:
Thomas, Smith, Domachowski
Lake, Dee, Elias
Francis, Thomas, Lewis
Rowlands, Beard, Jenkins, Davies
Lydiate,
Wainwright, Reffell, Morgan, Faletau, Plumtree
Williams, Hardy, Davies
Biggar, Anscombe, O Williams
Tompkins, North, J Williams, K Williams
Adams, LRZ, L Williams, Grady
Barring dramatic new info I'm fairly happy to send those in bold. The others I'd like to see some more of.
That's the squad I would pick from what we have seen so far, barring Kieron Williams, you've picked 3 12s in essence (tho Tompkins can play 13 also), I'd have Grady in as one of the 13s and either Dyer or Cuthbert added to the outside backs.
Yeah, Grady's in there, whether he's in the centres or the back three, he's available for both, like North.
Anyway, there's more to be seen . . . will Keiran get game time, will Johnny be fit, will there be any new injuries, will Roberts or Rogers have a moment of genius . . .
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:41 pm
by Sourdust
pompey-zebra wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:55 pm
As for hooker, have you considered Dewi Lake?
Don't know much about him - any good?
Re: The Mark Orders Memorialised this is the Squad Gatland should now take to France thread
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:28 am
by Graigwen
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:04 pm
Yeah, Grady's in there, whether he's in the centres or the back three, he's available for both, like North.
Anyway, there's more to be seen . . .
That would be the back three of the scrum for Grady and North I suppose....
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