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Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:18 am
by Lizard
Tonga should have no chance. I think this could be a fairly grim encounter.
(Yes, in a fit of wild optimism I did check the Irish Board before posting this)
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:15 am
by Lizard
Tonga:
15 Charles Piutau
14 Afusipa Taumoepeau
13 Malakai Fekitoa
12 Pita Ahki
11 Solomone Kata
10 William Havili
9 Augustine Pulu
8 Vaea Fifita
7 Sione Talitui
6 Tanginoa Halaifonua
5 Halaleva Fifita
4 Sam Lousi
3 Ben Tameifuna (c)
2 Paula Ngauamo
1 Siegfried Fisi’ihoi
Replacements: 16 Sam Moli, 17 Tau Koloamatangi, 18 Sosefo Apikotoa, 19 Semisi Paea, 20 Solomone Funaki, 21 Sione Vailanu, 22 Sonatane Takulua, 23 Fine Inisi
For those keeping count, this line up includes 4 former All Blacks, 4 other NZ U20 reps, an Aussie U20, one non-All Black NZ 7s player, plus a dude who was in the NZ Residents League side.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:17 am
by Lizard
RELAND: Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Johnny Sexton (capt), Conor Murray; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong; Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris.
Replacements: Rob Herring, Dave Kilcoyne, Finlay Bealham, Iain Henderson, Ryan Baird, Craig Casey, Ross Byrne, Robbie Henshaw.
Hmm. Fekitoa on Aki. Tasty.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:25 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Lizard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:17 am
RELAND: Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Johnny Sexton (capt), Conor Murray; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong; Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris.
Replacements: Rob Herring, Dave Kilcoyne, Finlay Bealham, Iain Henderson, Ryan Baird, Craig Casey, Ross Byrne, Robbie Henshaw.
Hmm. Fekitoa on Aki. Tasty.
They're taking it seriously then.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:00 am
by Puja
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:25 am
Lizard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:17 am
RELAND: Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Johnny Sexton (capt), Conor Murray; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong; Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris.
Replacements: Rob Herring, Dave Kilcoyne, Finlay Bealham, Iain Henderson, Ryan Baird, Craig Casey, Ross Byrne, Robbie Henshaw.
Hmm. Fekitoa on Aki. Tasty.
They're taking it seriously then.
Given they were given a hurry-up by Samoa in the warm-ups, I don't think they can afford not to. That Tonga side is probably not good enough to seriously trouble them (it's been less than the sum of its parts so far this year), but it's good enough that they absolutely cannot be cocky about it.
Puja
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:58 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:00 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:25 am
Lizard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:17 am
RELAND: Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Johnny Sexton (capt), Conor Murray; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong; Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan; Peter O’Mahony, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris.
Replacements: Rob Herring, Dave Kilcoyne, Finlay Bealham, Iain Henderson, Ryan Baird, Craig Casey, Ross Byrne, Robbie Henshaw.
Hmm. Fekitoa on Aki. Tasty.
They're taking it seriously then.
Given they were given a hurry-up by Samoa in the warm-ups, I don't think they can afford not to. That Tonga side is probably not good enough to seriously trouble them (it's been less than the sum of its parts so far this year), but it's good enough that they absolutely cannot be cocky about it.
Puja
Yeah, I guess they've had their easy match.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:30 pm
by bruce
Touch of a forward pass from Sexton for the try
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:38 pm
by 16th man
Isn't that obstruction with the ball dropped down to the second from the front of the maul?
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:50 pm
by bruce
There an impressive team mind.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:52 pm
by morepork
Fuck. They are so hard to stop when their phases get rolling. Come on Tonga.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:53 pm
by 16th man
Pretty effective 10 - 15 minutes from Ireland.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:55 pm
by 16th man
Someone might have had a word with the refs about pens in the red zone after the other night.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:08 pm
by J Dory
Tonga doing ok. Quick try after half time and we have a game.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:13 pm
by UKHamlet
The Tongans don't look as massive as they used to. Certainly not as big as the Fijians and Samoans.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:20 pm
by 16th man
UKHamlet wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:13 pm
The Tongans don't look as massive as they used to. Certainly not as big as the Fijians and Samoans.
The pack is still 950+ Kilos.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:21 pm
by morepork
UKHamlet wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:13 pm
The Tongans don't look as massive as they used to. Certainly not as big as the Fijians and Samoans.
Horses don't necessarily make sensitive lovers Hammy.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:33 pm
by 16th man
Oh, mate. You're clean through. Don't just drop it.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:58 pm
by UKHamlet
16th man wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:20 pm
UKHamlet wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:13 pm
The Tongans don't look as massive as they used to. Certainly not as big as the Fijians and Samoans.
The pack is still 950+ Kilos.
Yeah but they're all fatboys
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:57 am
by Which Tyler
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:04 am
by 16th man
There were moments last night when the Tongans clicked, and the undeniable talent in the team was obvious, but there were way too many unforced errors, and the lack of cohesion was fairly mercilessly exploited by Ireland.
Not sure how many, if any lessons are there to be taken from that ahead of next Saturday's game.
Re: Ireland v Tonga - Sun (Sat GMT)
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:01 am
by Lizard
Tonga seem quite badly under-coached given the talent in their squad. I guess it’s tough when you don’t get much squad time with players all over the globe.