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If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:08 am
by UGagain
........ and you were asked to vote whether to join the EU or not, which way would you vote?

Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:55 pm
by Adder
The EU would be very different without the UK. Lots of things would be different. (Probably for the better)

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Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:03 pm
by UGagain
Adder wrote:The EU would be very different without the UK. Lots of things would be different. (Probably for the better)

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Not my point. Given the horrendous state of the EU now, who would vote to join it?

Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:42 pm
by OptimisticJock
What makes you say the EU would be better without the UK?

Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:26 am
by UGagain
So much fun destroying whole countries. Crushing unions and pensioners is a hoot.

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Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:43 am
by Adder
OptimisticJock wrote:What makes you say the EU would be better without the UK?
Its no secret that the UK is not the most europhile country and EU construction has been affected by this.


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Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:46 am
by Adder
UGagain wrote:
Adder wrote:The EU would be very different without the UK. Lots of things would be different. (Probably for the better)

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Not my point. Given the horrendous state of the EU now, who would vote to join it?
Thats 30-40years of British influence disapearing. Quite a lot...

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Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:03 am
by UGagain
Adder wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Adder wrote:The EU would be very different without the UK. Lots of things would be different. (Probably for the better)

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Not my point. Given the horrendous state of the EU now, who would vote to join it?
Thats 30-40years of British influence disapearing. Quite a lot...

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The Europeans, and especially the Germans, have been perfectly capable of being irrational neoliberal nincompoops without any help from the UK.

Germany probably has the worst economists in the world.

Then we could talk about Mitterand, Delors etc and their monetarist ways.

And all beholden to the USA anyway.

Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:43 am
by Stom
For all the talk of crap British politicians, we don't have anyone to rival Guy Verhofstadt, Juncker, Santer, van Rompuy, etc. Somewhat of a Benelux feel there...

Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:32 am
by UGagain
Stom wrote:For all the talk of crap British politicians, we don't have anyone to rival Guy Verhofstadt, Juncker, Santer, van Rompuy, etc. Somewhat of a Benelux feel there...
The UK has plenty of venal idiots too. In both parties. And many more war criminals.

Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:14 am
by OptimisticJock
Adder wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:What makes you say the EU would be better without the UK?
Its no secret that the UK is not the most europhile country and EU construction has been affected by this.


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And yet they seem desperate to retain us.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:23 am
by Adder
OptimisticJock wrote:
Adder wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:What makes you say the EU would be better without the UK?
Its no secret that the UK is not the most europhile country and EU construction has been affected by this.


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And yet they seem desperate to retain us.
That's not what i'm hearing...

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Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:58 am
by Zhivago
They'll be glad to see the back of us.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: If the UK wasn't in the EU......

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:23 pm
by OptimisticJock
Adder wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Adder wrote: Its no secret that the UK is not the most europhile country and EU construction has been affected by this.


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And yet they seem desperate to retain us.
That's not what i'm hearing...

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You'll know more about the average frog than me.